Who's to blame for the Pac/Hatton fight falling apart?

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  • Steak
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    #31
    Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
    Hatton dudged from 50-50 to 52-48. Why should he continue to budge? Its Pacs turn to make adjustments.
    Pacquiao went from 60-40 to 55-45. Hatton himself should stop being such a baby and jsut take it, youre still going to get paid a ton of money anyway.

    it would have been much easier if Pacquiao just took the 50-50 split in the first place.

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    • boojee
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      #32
      Originally posted by hammerhiem
      Hatton made every effort to move towards Pac-man and pacman did nothing other tan ask for more at every turn and Hatton is the chicken?


      Bull! Hatton's pussied out coz he knows Manny will crack his jaw nine motherfuckin different ways.

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #33
        pacquiao.

        50-50 was a fair deal.

        52-48 was more than fair.

        when your promoter and trainer thinks it's a good deal , you know it is.

        and i don't want to hear the morons who think roach and arum is selling pacquiao out or some ****. they know the business and they know how the business works.

        the fuckers who sold pacquiao out are his so called advisors from philippines who's whispering nothing but bull**** in his ear. they just cost manny about $10-15 million dollars if his next fight is around $5 million.

        that "UNFAIR" 50-50 deal would have made him $15-20 million......i wish god would be unfair to me......

        manny is a moron.
        Last edited by Left Hook Tua; 01-21-2009, 12:18 PM.

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #34
          Originally posted by boojee
          Bull! Hatton's pussied out coz he knows Manny will crack his jaw nine motherfuckin different ways.
          he gave in a little bit.

          manny still refused.

          people can say he ducked hatton for all i care. until the fight gets made that is......

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          • Thwf
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
            No one can blame Arum... he done what he had to do to persuade Pac. Pacmans greedy associates are also too blame.
            Originally posted by hammerhiem
            Your promoter is paid to get you the best deal thats reasonably achievable without hurting the product.

            50/50 was very generous to pacman every single nuetral poster here said so, hatton could easily have asked for more having given up the venue and fight time.

            As soon as Pac-man refused the 50/50 agreed by Arum he started hurting the product (him in the eyes of fans) by refusing to compromise he has significantly damaged his reputation as a product (himself) and choise of markets (other fighters).

            My view mirrors most people who follow boxing, Arum is one of the best deal makers in the sport, his fighters often come out a bargin session better than they rightfully should do when he is at the table, i believe this was the case at 50/50 and Arum did a great job getting that much.

            The movement from Hatton both in terms of venue, timing of the fight, date and movement from 50/50 to 52/48 shows he was willing to move to get the fight made.

            Pacman refused to take good offers, refused again when even his close advisers told him it was a good deal and then again when Hatton moved towards him. All this after gaining every consession on other aspects of the fight.

            I honestly don't know wtf Pacman is thinking, Brit fans would have become fans of him on a large scale had he won so not only has he squandered his biggest payday through greed he has lost a **** load of potential loyal fans.
            I think bob arum got caught up with his own pride. He may have thought that pac was his pet animal, without consulting the animal. Bob arum himself admitted that pac was not present when he negotiated for a 50/50. Having made that blunder, he`d save face by pretending to be charitable, nope pac didn`t need that. I think the pac is contented with his money, that`s why he can take those risks, nope he is not the greedy one. He made his way from starvation not just to be threatened by these oligarchs. Now who`s affected now? He`s the man. He can start from nothing again an all would still be watching.

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            • Jose Rizal
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              #36
              Ricky Hatton is looking more to me like the next Oscar de la Hoya whose abilities can't back up their huge PPV draw. Pacquiao doesn't need him to improve his legacy. There are a lot more worthy foes out there even if he ends up getting a lot less $$$$$$$. Ricky can go on padding his bank account if that's all he cares about and use his bills for toilet paper if he runs out of ideas how to spend it all...lol.

              I hope Manny doesn't do a 180 and give in to the Hatton Hype and Money Making Machine.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Thwf
                I think bob arum got caught up with his own pride. He may have thought that pac was his pet animal, without consulting the animal. Bob arum himself admitted that pac was not present when he negotiated for a 50/50. Having made that blunder, he`d save face by pretending to be charitable, nope pac didn`t need that. I think the pac is contented with his money, that`s why he can take those risks, nope he is not the greedy one. He made his way from starvation not just to be threatened by these oligarchs. Now who`s affected now? He`s the man. He can start from nothing again an all would still be watching.
                no.

                arum agreed to 50-50 because it was a good deal.

                the original offer was 60-40 to pac but hatton kept the u.k. revenue.

                the 50-50 on u.s. and u.k. revenue and manny keeping the philippine tv revenue was a sweet deal.

                only a moron would turn it down. unfortunately for pac he's surrounded by morons in philippines.

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                • Roger Mellie
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by boojee
                  Bull! Hatton's pussied out coz he knows Manny will crack his jaw nine motherfuckin different ways.
                  Probably the dumbest comment of the day,and that is saying something

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                    #39
                    so........


                    how about that margarito-mosely fight this weekend eh?

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                    • Left Hook Tua
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Makavelli
                      so........


                      how about that margarito-mosely fight this weekend eh?
                      maybe mosley can pull it out.

                      how much will pac ask for mosley-pac? 101 - -1?

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