Cotto Is A True Champion But Why Has He Only Won Vacated Belts?

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  • Mr. Fantastic
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    #31
    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
    Ill give him Echols and Johnson, but eastman is a joke and just because Mercado gave B-Hop hell at that moment doesnt mean he is a great fighter. Tito was comming up in weight. Titos best weight was WW SWW at most!!!!!!!!! Every big name Bhop win is againts a guy comming up in weight, except tarver, but Tarver is a one hit wonder!!!!!!

    Exactly!!!!!!

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    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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      #32
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      People downplay Hop's opponents and many other fighters when they dont seem like what we are accustomed to seeing from them. Not to mention Tarver, Pavlik, and Tito didnt look like themselves, but people overlook that John David Jackson was a two time champ, a very good boxer, Simon Brown was a two time champ, Robert Allen very underated good fighter, Keith Holmes was a two time champ, Joppy a two time champ, but when Hop beat these guys they didnt look like their normal selves.
      Even tho' I dont agree that they were big wins or anything, That was great great response from your part!!!

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      • El Dominicano
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        #33
        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
        Ill give him Echols and Johnson, but eastman is a joke and just because Mercado gave B-Hop hell at that moment doesnt mean he is a great fighter. Tito was comming up in weight. Titos best weight was WW SWW at most!!!!!!!!! Every big name Bhop win is againts a guy comming up in weight, except tarver, but Tarver is a one hit wonder!!!!!!
        Tito was the bigger guy fight night. B-Hop didn't even impose his size...As much as you wouldn't want to believe it...B-Hop beating Tito is a great accomplishment. Live with it

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          #34
          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          The time B-Hop lost he was 40+ JT, Calzaghe and it could have gone either way. B-Hop ain't young you know

          RJJ is the only guy who clearly beat him
          Doesn't change the fact that most of his opponents were smaller and he gets a pass for it while other fighters get told to move up in weight class.


          Do you seriously not see the hypocrisy?

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          • Ch@mpBox@PR
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            #35
            Originally posted by El Dominicano
            The time B-Hop lost he was 40+ JT, Calzaghe and it could have gone either way. B-Hop ain't young you know

            RJJ is the only guy who clearly beat him
            If you compare old B-Hop with young B-hop, Old B-Hop is 10 times better than Young B-Hop!!!!!!!

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            • Bhopreign
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              #36
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              Even tho' I dont agree that they were big wins or anything, That was great great response from your part!!!
              You would have to seen those guys fight previously. No one will admit this, but I think Hop tried to find a way out of the first Robert Allen fight. Not many have seen this fight, but Allen was beating Hop in my opinion, Allen was good that day and was countering everything and hard, Hop looked to me like he was faking an injury, makes me wonder that Hop took Allen lightly because he beat him soundly the second and third time. A bias fan wouldnt admit such a thing, but I think Hop saw he was in trouble in that first fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by El Dominicano
                The time B-Hop lost he was 40+ JT, Calzaghe and it could have gone either way. B-Hop ain't young you know

                RJJ is the only guy who clearly beat him
                I don't see bhop bitching about his age.

                The only ones I've seen saying it could of gone either way with the Cal fight, are the ones that truly love the defensive style. BHop to me clearly lost that one, too bad he had to hug his way throughout the fight.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by El Dominicano
                  Tito was the bigger guy fight night. B-Hop didn't even impose his size...As much as you wouldn't want to believe it...B-Hop beating Tito is a great accomplishment. Live with it
                  He didnt impose his size, because to impose your size, most times you have to go foward and trade, and theres no way in hell that a guy would walk in front of Tito and get away with it!!!!!!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                    Doesn't change the fact that most of his opponents were smaller and he gets a pass for it while other fighters get told to move up in weight class.


                    Do you seriously not see the hypocrisy?
                    But their are many middleweights that are Hopkins size, thats where your point fails. Their arnt many WELTERWEIGHTS that are Margarito's size, its a big difference.

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                    • Bhopreign
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by chicano79us
                      I don't see bhop bitching about his age.

                      The only ones I've seen saying it could of gone either way with the Cal fight, are the ones that truly love the defensive style. BHop to me clearly lost that one, too bad he had to hug his way throughout the fight.
                      I had him losing too bro.
                      Last edited by Bhopreign; 01-20-2009, 02:44 AM.

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