Joe Calzaghe was not on the level of.....Jones, Hopkins, Toney

[IMDAZED]

why would you take offense to someone stating the obvious?

You should ask yourself that when someone tells you Felix Trinidad was considered the world's best when he fought Hopkins.

[bsrizpac]

If someone other than me says Fat Yank (or my own specific invention "Fat Yankery") then I want a royalty payment.


Pisspac, I used to be a major Toney fan but three things have cooled me to him:

1. The roiding.

2. The way he made himself look a total ass by saying that he thought he'd beat Sam Peter (the second time).

3. The way his girly fanboys shriek with laughter when he disses the Klitschkos... even though both Klits, despite their limitations, would **** him. Possibly literally in Wlad's case.


Oh, and the fact that he can come in in such a poor condition that he could be beat and get lucky on the cards against Hasbeen.

All your points are valid but....

He's old. He's going to be delusional. Of course the Klits would destroy him. I hardly take that as a knock.

And a sports fan I've never ever in any sport given two ****s about steroids. Overhyped. Overblown. Another way for media and ****ing regulatory/government bodies to waste our money and act self important. Who cares? I don't.

That being said I've always hated the he came in as a fat ass.

[bsrizpac]

why would you take offense to someone stating the obvious?

What's the obvious? that people in New England or the northeast are fat? Not particularly? Or is it that you don't know **** about Americans? Yeah my guess is that. Here's an idea for you: Direct your jealousy at the UK. They at least have something to do with your history...that is if you aren't just another ****ing Ricky alt.

Or is it obvious that you have been watching boxing for about 2 years max? Yeah that's obvious and true.

Pisspac, you're right about Toney and the Klits. It's not so much him saying it that bugs me (I used to find him very funny, but his **** talking is only really amusing when he's winning... if you're talking **** when you're losing you just end up looking like a clown) but his fanboys on here squealing about it. Kind of like the way Floyd's actually fairly engaging when you see him, but you just get sick of him when you read about him so often on here.

Direct your jealousy at the UK. They at least have something to do with your history....

You heard about that, right? We had two boats, our fat ******s in one, our criminals in another...

[bsrizpac]

Pisspac, you're right about Toney and the Klits. It's not so much him saying it that bugs me (I used to find him very funny, but his **** talking is only really amusing when he's winning... if you're talking **** when you're losing you just end up looking like a clown) but his fanboys on here squealing about it. Kind of like the way Floyd's actually fairly engaging when you see him, but you just get sick of him when you read about him so often on here.




You heard about that, right? We had two boats, our fat ******s in one, our criminals in another...

Eh haven't seen too many of the Toney fans around here. I give you the winning bit, but I think the ****er has won enough that I can let it slide. Everyone knows he isn't fighting the Klits, and he knows it too. So let him talk **** so he can talk his way into a paycheck here or there, the guy deserves it.

At the very worst he should be training other guys if he can calm down a bit. He knows a lot about the fight game.

As for your boat comment, yeah everyone just had to get out of the fog infested miserable ****hole

[Pullcounter]

between hopkins, rjj, toney, and calz, the one that doesn't belong with the rest is calz.

[bsrizpac]

You should ask yourself that when someone tells you Felix Trinidad was considered the world's best when he fought Hopkins.

Same ****stain that claimed Tito wasn't #1 p4p in 2001.

It actually doesn't seem to matter too much right now as it's winter anyway, but when it comes to summer and 8 out of 10 days it's pissing it down I'll agree with you.


Yeah, I do still like Toney, but I kinda felt let down by him, you know? A bit like that time when Danny Williams didn't try and unify the belts after TKOing Vitali for four years.

Same ****stain that claimed Tito wasn't #1 p4p in 2001.

I ain't necessarily into all this theoretical stuff though. It's like people saying Ping Ping is P4P No.1 when I think we know that if he fought JMM ten times he'd probably only win four of them... right?

[bsrizpac]

I ain't necessarily into all this theoretical stuff though. It's like people saying Ping Ping is P4P No.1 when I think we know that if he fought JMM ten times he'd probably only win four of them... right?

Right, but I'm pretty sure the ****tard said and I paraphrase:

"TITO #1 p4p in 2001? Yeah right right. LOL. ****ing idiot."

AKA nut worshipping Joe fan who started watching boxing 2 years ago.

I know you aren't a fan of P4P rankings and thats fine but the claim in the argument was the Joe had faced more P4P fighters than bernard.

Also I think Tito was still a dangerous foe, but that's just me. He was clearly impressive and cutting a swath of destruction and moving up as he did it and KOing legit middleweights before he faced Hopkins.

Lacy in contrast beat up....?