Margarito, Mosley, and The Welterweight Crown

[americanme]

all so now its pay your due....No matter how you try to spin my man...He tried to unify the division when you get through...Those are facts...all of the other stuff you just typed is really moot.

So tell me then...Who was left to fight at WW for Williams? Clottey, Margorito and Cotto couldnt fight him because Arum and Goosen, Cintron pulled out! What other top WW could he fight?

how did he TRY? fighting Quintana? then leaving WW? LOLs..

fight a mando, damn. isnt that what Margo did when he lost to PW..he fought his mando..

FIGHT another top WW w/out a title like Collazo aif you cant unify, there is no spin.. PW isnt trying to unify.. he backed out of PAV FIGHT TO FIGHT ANDY KOLLE.. how is that unifying?

[Ray Ray]

how did he TRY? fighting Quintana? then leaving WW? LOLs..

fight a mando, damn. isnt that what Margo did when he lost to PW..he fought his mando..

FIGHT another top WW w/out a title like Collazo aif you cant unify, there is no spin.. PW isnt trying to unify.. he backed out of PAV FIGHT TO FIGHT ANDY KOLLE.. how is that unifying?

Ok smart guy why didnt Floyd, Cotto or Cintron accept his challenge?...This was way before he chose to fight Cintron...Try to keep up and stop nitpicking at it...You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Get your facts straight...It was Arum who pulled the plug on the fight...You gotta be ****ting me if you really believe what Arum has to say.

Unifing 147 dumbass...Man I swear...are you that slow...Again..I asked you question earlier and you've yet to answer it.

After defeating Margorito...If Floyd, Cotto, or Cintron didnt accept his challenge who else could have fought?...Collazo was not a title holder at the time and Mosley just beat him, so whats the point of fighting him?....You can ignore it all you want to but the fact remains he tried to unify titles at 147...I dont blame him for moving up and not sitting back waiting on someone to fight him at 147...You're making it out like he didnt even attempt to anything!

[FLY TY]

So you mean to tell me in the two months they had since Cintron pulled out of the WILLIAMS fight til the night of the fight they couldnt find ANY lefties to spar with? lolsss..

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u got it confused....i NEVER said PW didnt have time to prepare for quintana, i said he overlooked him.....the fact that he had time to spar w/ lefties, but didn't brings that point home.....

look at all the top guys at WW that MARGO fought that didnt have titles..PAY YOUR DUES..stop expecting every title holder to fight you when you are losing to Carlos Quintana and fighting Any Kolle's..

he's not expecting EVERY title holder to fight him, b/c its clear the smaller ones, like berto won't have anything to do with him.....but the bigger ones, like margarito, whom you've already beaten, should have no problem fighting you again....you can keep bringing up that loss to quintana, as long as you mention what happened in the rematch, and as long as you margarito LOST to williams........maybe instead of fighting andy kolle's, he should follow margarito's route and fight golden johnson, then fight him in a meaningless rematch.

[Ray Ray]

u got it confused....i NEVER said PW didnt have time to prepare for quintana, i said he overlooked him.....the fact that he had time to spar w/ lefties, but didn't brings that point home.....



he's not expecting EVERY title holder to fight him, b/c its clear the smaller ones, like berto won't have anything to do with him.....but the bigger ones, like margarito, whom you've already beaten, should have no problem fighting you again....you can keep bringing up that loss to quintana, as long as you mention what happened in the rematch, and as long as you margarito LOST to williams........maybe instead of fighting andy kolle's, he should follow margarito's route and fight golden johnson, then fight him in a meaningless rematch.

Dude just cant seem to get it...He always brings up the Quintana lost...Like thats going to do anything.LOL

[americanme]

Ok smart guy why didnt Floyd, Cotto or Cintron accept his challenge?...This was way before he chose to fight Cintron...Try to keep up and stop nitpicking at it...You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Get your facts straight...It was Arum who pulled the plug on the fight...You gotta be ****ting me if you really believe what Arum has to say.

Unifing 147 dumbass...Man I swear...are you that slow...Again..I asked you question earlier and you've yet to answer it.

After defeating Margorito...If Floyd, Cotto, or Cintron didnt accept his challenge who else could have fought?...Collazo was not a title holder at the time and Mosley just beat him, so whats the point of fighting him?....You can ignore it all you want to but the fact remains he tried to unify titles at 147...I dont blame him for moving up and not sitting back waiting on someone to fight him at 147...You're making it out like he didnt even attempt to anything!

Dude..

was every fight MARGO HAD A TITLE FIGHT AFTER HE WON IS WBO? no.

PAY YOUR DUES.. he fought Quintana and LOST in his first defense then went to a different class and dropped his belt. defend a against a mando. stop thinking cause you picked up a strap you can call out all the other title holders and if they dont fight you in thier next fight, that you "tried" to unify...thats a joke. and so is this convo. One defense and he LOST then wins it back and moves up to fight Any Kolle, yeah he REALLY tried.

[FLY TY]

Ok smart guy why didnt Floyd, Cotto or Cintron accept his challenge?...This was way before he chose to fight Cintron...Try to keep up and stop nitpicking at it...You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Get your facts straight...It was Arum who pulled the plug on the fight...You gotta be ****ting me if you really believe what Arum has to say.

Unifing 147 dumbass...Man I swear...are you that slow...Again..I asked you question earlier and you've yet to answer it.

After defeating Margorito...If Floyd, Cotto, or Cintron didnt accept his challenge who else could have fought?...Collazo was not a title holder at the time and Mosley just beat him, so whats the point of fighting him?....You can ignore it all you want to but the fact remains he tried to unify titles at 147...I dont blame him for moving up and not sitting back waiting on someone to fight him at 147...You're making it out like he didnt even attempt to anything!

he's gonna keep driving that quintana thing home, but he won't say clearly paul OVERLOOKED quintana, and he won't say what happened in the rematch......he'll keep bringing up andy kolle, but he'll fail to mention golden johnson.......

he'll give excuse after excuse as to why margarito SHOULD NOT fight PW again, but he forgets margarito LOST to PW, and f--- everything else he wants to cry about, PW is the only man standing in between margarito and the RING BELT, and its an absolute shame margarito calls himself "the" man at 147, but is more interested in fighting old guys, and rematching fighters he's already beaten, as opposed to making career paydays and at the same time getting a chance to AVENGE a loss.......it's pointless.

[americanme]

u got it confused....i NEVER said PW didnt have time to prepare for quintana, i said he overlooked him.....the fact that he had time to spar w/ lefties, but didn't brings that point home.....

if you believe that he didnt spar w/any lefties in preparation for Quintana, then you will belive just about anything...

he had two months, stop w/the EXCUSES ..

[Ray Ray]

Dude..

was every fight MARGO HAD A TITLE FIGHT AFTER HE WON IS WBO? no.

PAY YOUR DUES.. he fought Quintana and LOST in his first defense then went to a different class and dropped his belt. defend a against a mando. stop thinking cause you picked up a strap you can call out all the other title holders and if they dont fight you in thier next fight, that you "tried" to unify...thats a joke. and so is this convo. One defense and he LOST then wins it back and moves up to fight Any Kolle, yeah he REALLY tried.

You keep saying pay your due..but the man has over 25 pro-fights...DUDE what more dues does he has to pay? Stop with that bull****...he has put in work to make the championship level.

So what you're telling me is that he is suppose to sit back at 147 and fight pointless mandos? Is that what you're saying he has to do? I see you keep skipping over the fact he wanted these big fights...you're right it doesnt have to be other champ but even the other solid fighters at 147 didnt want to fight him...You constanly saying he needs to fight someone...Who should he fight...I've asked you this several times and you've yet to answer that...You want to critize him for moving up and keeping busy...You an idiot if you think he should just sit around and do nothing!

[Ray Ray]

he's gonna keep driving that quintana thing home, but he won't say clearly paul OVERLOOKED quintana, and he won't say what happened in the rematch......he'll keep bringing up andy kolle, but he'll fail to mention golden johnson.......

he'll give excuse after excuse as to why margarito SHOULD NOT fight PW again, but he forgets margarito LOST to PW, and f--- everything else he wants to cry about, PW is the only man standing in between margarito and the RING BELT, and its an absolute shame margarito calls himself "the" man at 147, but is more interested in fighting old guys, and rematching fighters he's already beaten, as opposed to making career paydays and at the same time getting a chance to AVENGE a loss.......it's pointless.

Thats a dumb, bling Margorito hugger for you! Lol!

[Ray Ray]

if you believe that he didnt spar w/any lefties in preparation for Quintana, then you will belive just about anything...

he had two months, stop w/the EXCUSES ..

Did you hear P. Williams himself make any excuses?