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  • #41
    Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
    it has already been stated, MARGARITO REMATCHES COTTO, WHETHER MOSLEY WINS OR LOSES......



    COSIGN.









    the RING is using the fact that paul williams beat margarito. as stated, williams didn't leave the division b/c he wanted to, he left b/c no one would fight him. if you think like me, and RING obviously, you'd be hard pressed to reward margarito when he lost to a guy, and doesn't want anything else to do with him. that's why this fight is NOT for the RING title.

    you know what? **** everybody, including dan rafael, and anyone else who disagrees. what ring is doing is a GOOD thing. in the end, if you wanna be called the best, you're gonna have to step up and prove it. sooner or later, the so-called "champs" in the WW division are gonna have to see PW, win-lose-or draw.
    And isn't that what Margarito has been doing through his whole 147 reign? he was avoided early on his career by the elite, so what the f uck you mean that?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
      He is still campaigning at Welterweight, he took the higher weight fights because none of the leading Welterweights was willing to fight him. He has made it clear that the moment he can get a meaningful fight at Welterweight, he'll take it. It's possible to campaign at more than one weight class simultaneously, provided you keep busy. Pacquiao is still rated at Lightweight, even though he's also campaigning at higher weights. Calzaghe was simultaneously rated as The Ring champion at Sup-Middleweight and Light-Heavyweight for nearly a year.
      no many how many times you try to explain it, ppl just don't wanna hear it. they use it as an excuse for margarito and the other top WW's to avoid the guy.....

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      • #43
        Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
        i hear that all the time from margarito fans on here, but no one has yet to give any sort of factual evidence to back that claim up. as of right now, that's a claim from the margarito camp, and the margarito camp only.

        bottom line is, if you're any kind of champ, you would WANT to avenge a loss, as long as the guy who beat you is still at the top of his game, and the fight is worthwhile.

        a fight w/ pw still is, which makes no excuse margarito can give, a good enough reason not to make the fight. period.
        point is Marg wanted it and PW turned it down only to lose to Quinatana and ONLY since MARGO BEAT COTTO has PW been mentioing Margo's name. its about $$. Do some re search. MArgo and camp petitioned to become PW's mando after the PW fight.. PW and Goosen said "they were moving forward ".. they were looking for $$ and ended up 1-1 w/Quintana of all people...

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        • #44
          Originally posted by TJ Tornado View Post
          And isn't that what Margarito has been doing through his whole 147 reign? he was avoided early on his career by the elite, so what the f uck you mean that?
          so now, he can duck fighters b/c he earned the right? is that what you're saying?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by TJ Tornado View Post
            And how do you figure this? Margarito already kick the **** out of Cotto, this fight should be for the Lineal champion, the ring title should be on the line. It seems to me all Cotto-Rican nutthugers are the only ones against this fight being for the Ring title
            hey ***face ur boy got beat up too.don't be talking out of ur ass u blind mexican nuthugger.its the right thing cotto beat mosley. IF margarito beats mosley cotto-margarito 2 would be the logical fight for the ring title.

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            • #46
              If anything, Cotto/Marg 1 should have been for The Ring title. I could have sworn that The Ring had them ranked 1 and 2 before that fight.

              The bottom line is that Mosley does NOT deserve his number 3 ranking, it's crazy to rank him number 3.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
                no many how many times you try to explain it, ppl just don't wanna hear it. they use it as an excuse for margarito and the other top WW's to avoid the guy.....
                where were PW's last two fights and what weight class is the next one?

                its just common sense man.

                I would like PW to face MArg at WW..but PW staying away from WW and dropping his title isnt helping.

                Margo has fought Cotto, Clottey, Cintron and now Mosley at WW..( with the exception of PW)

                PW has Quintana..

                man... please.. PW needs to fight somebody at WW already

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by americanme View Post
                  um, no he isnt campaining at WW..he gave up his WW title and chose not to defend it. what sense does it make to fight at a higher weight against Andy Kolle? what's the difference between Kolle and your WW WBO #1 mandatory.

                  Pac JUST fought at LW.. PW last two fights were above 147 and his next is at what ??
                  The WBO title is fairly meaningless. it's The Ring title he wants. He took Kolle as a tester to see how he'd do at a higher weight. He had two fights at Welter last year, whereas Pac has only had one at Lightweight. Pac has not just had a fight at lightweight, he's just had a fight at Welterweight.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by americanme View Post
                    Why is that cause PW has a win over MArgarito? PW is no longer a WW and no longer has a WW title. After going 1-1 w/ Quintana he has chosen to move to the higher weight classes.

                    If PW was STILL campaining at WW then that would make sense. But he is not and he no longer has a title there either.
                    imho it depends if you want to see williams/margartio II or not. obviously the ring mag wants to see the rematch and also I want to see the rematch.

                    if margarito gets the ring belt, chances are he'll never fight williams again.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
                      so now, he can duck fighters b/c he earned the right? is that what you're saying?
                      .. he wouldnt give MARG AN immediate rematch, that's a fact...yet he got one from Qiuntana..

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