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  • boxasmash
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    #231
    i agree with you on this one too.

    Hopkins = a great fighter but overrated.

    you can't just cry robbery every time you lose to a certain type of fighter and fast fighters with reflexes is definitely hopkins' weakness.

    he made 3 of the fights close but definitely lost if you go by the boxing rules of scoring fights. yes they was close but taylor isn't that great himself and calzaghe is also old (36) so it evens out.

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    • circleinsidebox
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      #232
      Originally posted by TheManchine
      I've answered your questions and you've come back with nothing. It's getting boring now and I'm starting to think that you've made this thread just to get some points.





      A lot of fighters couldn't beat Roy Jones. But Hopkins is the only one who gave him a fight in Roy's prime.
      points? no i appreciate a good discussion
      do u even kno who i am?
      i upload every fight in the video block section that is aired on tv....
      that includes capping, ripping, encoding
      and i NEVER ask for 1 point (besides me and rule and lefthooktodabody)
      we upload the majority of the fights on here and never
      ask for points...
      i do it to share with the boxing community
      and give them what we all love

      anyways, back to the subject
      i think eric harding gave roy a tougher fight than bernard

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      • circleinsidebox
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        #233
        Originally posted by boxasmash
        i agree with you on this one too.

        Hopkins = a great fighter but overrated.

        you can't just cry robbery every time you lose to a certain type of fighter and fast fighters with reflexes is definitely hopkins' weakness.

        he made 3 of the fights close but definitely lost if you go by the boxing rules of scoring fights. yes they was close but taylor isn't that great himself and calzaghe is also old (36) so it evens out.
        great post

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #234
          Originally posted by circleinsidebox
          great post
          boxasmash is an alt of Ricky the most biased Calzaghe fan on the site, stande to reason he thinks Hopkins is overrated, because he knows Joe didn't beat Bernard.

          Neither man deserved to win that fight. Hopkins held too much and tried to steal it whilst Calzaghe never landed ****

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          • circleinsidebox
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            #235
            Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
            boxasmash is an alt of Ricky the most biased Calzaghe fan on the site, stande to reason he thinks Hopkins is overrated, because he knows Joe didn't beat Bernard.

            Neither man deserved to win that fight. Hopkins held too much and tried to steal it whilst Calzaghe never landed ****
            yall always scream experts and all that ****
            well 3 QUALIFIED BOXING EXPERTS/JUDGES
            were responsible for giving JOE CALZAGHE a "W" over Benard Hopkins
            so please stop with the whole Joe didn't beat bernard ****
            if you were good at judging fights i'm sure you would be
            someplace putting it to practical use

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            • Steak
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              #236
              its a little irritating when people say that Calzaghe is past his prime. Ill agree hes past his prime, but only slightly. the best hes ever looked is against Lacy or against Kessler...and the Hopkins fight was only about 6 months after the Kessler fight, right?

              Hes starting to go downhill from what Ive seen of him lately, but to say hes past prime is a little bit of a stretch.

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              • circleinsidebox
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                #237
                Originally posted by blackirish137
                its a little irritating when people say that Calzaghe is past his prime. Ill agree hes past his prime, but only slightly. the best hes ever looked is against Lacy or against Kessler...and the Hopkins fight was only about 6 months after the Kessler fight, right?

                Hes starting to go downhill from what Ive seen of him lately, but to say hes past prime is a little bit of a stretch.

                its also irritating how people make excuses for hopkins
                sayin he was past his prime when he lost to taylor
                yet he looks great against tarver and pavlik
                i guess we should look down on those victories
                because those fighters can't be world class
                if an old out of his prime b hop could easily beat them
                the madness must end

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                • Dynamite Kid
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by circleinsidebox
                  yall always scream experts and all that ****
                  well 3 QUALIFIED BOXING EXPERTS/JUDGES
                  were responsible for giving JOE CALZAGHE a "W" over Benard Hopkins
                  so please stop with the whole Joe didn't beat bernard ****
                  if you were good at judging fights i'm sure you would be
                  someplace putting it to practical use
                  There are plenty of judges out there that are terrible at scoring fights just, because they get the privilege dont mean their opinion is any better than yours or mine.

                  Joe did not win ****.

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                  • circleinsidebox
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                    There are plenty of judges out there that are terrible at scoring fights just, because they get the privilege dont mean their opinion is any better than yours or mine.

                    Joe did not win ****.
                    the "experts" the "professionals" thought otherwise....

                    but i get what your saying as far as opinions goes...i agree
                    with you completely

                    thats why i hate when people use arguments such as
                    experts agree hopkins is a legend and an ATG

                    they are human just as u and i

                    great point u made....

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by circleinsidebox
                      the "experts" the "professionals" thought otherwise....

                      but i get what your saying as far as opinions goes...i agree
                      with you completely

                      thats why i hate when people use arguments such as
                      experts agree hopkins is a legend and an ATG

                      they are human just as u and i

                      great point u made....



                      So called "experts" scored Lewis v Holy 1 apparently, they also scored Chavez v Whitaker too.

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