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  • Mayfeather
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    #161
    In my opinion Hopkins is a legend. Look at what he done to Pavlik at the age he is. I know you said not to consider his age but you have to. As Silencers pointed out earlier how many other boxers around are still fighting at his age and fighting top opponents (Calzaghe, Pavlik).

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    • KiloTeague
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      #162
      Dude this post is ridiculous

      This is what happens when 5 year boxing fans get on catch the tail end of someone career, and judge him on it. Theres just to much to say, but I say about 2% of it.

      I like the Roy Jones Jr. Measuring stick for him. People say he lost to Roy. Well I say he's the only one that gave roy a fight over Roy's15 year run of tolal and complete domination fo the sport, one that has never been seen and probably never will be seen again.

      Did you watch the You tube bro? I know that was more punches thrown in that one round than you have witnessed in his career. Thats The monster that Roy had to face, not this slower, weaker 40+ that was so good then that hes still better than the youg stars

      Bernard with knocked pavlick out in two rounds in his prime.

      Noone dominated like Roy. Watch all of his fights and then talk to me, youve only seen since he turned 34. You started Watching Bernard when he turned 37.

      Remember Jordan at 25. Remeber him at 37. Same exact thing with both these fighters. The fact that they are still even getting into the same ring with young guys tells you how great they once were.

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      • Floydmayweather
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        #163
        He is a legend he has beat alot of fighters and lost some fights he should have won as well. He beat Taylor the first fight. Any who he is a legend, he should stamp his career with a win or Cal.
        Last edited by Floydmayweather; 01-15-2009, 02:29 AM. Reason: spelling

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        • FaustoGeraci
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          #164
          Hilarious that most experts consider Hopkins one of the greatest fighters of all time. Look at what he's doing at his age. Yet you don't even consider him a legend?? That's ****ed up.

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          • Boxingwizard
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            #165
            Hopkins is overrated now, people think he can beat any LHW or SMW, which is simply not true. I would favor Dawson, Bute, Kessler, and Taylor over Hopkins.

            Hopkins still has great skills, but he doesn't have the workrate, speed, and sharpness like he used to. Dawson would absolutely do a number on him. People will say he beat Pavlik, but Pavlik is even slower than Hopkins and not even a natural LHW yet. There would be ABSOLUTELY NOTHING Hopkins can do to beat Dawson, I just don't see it. Dawson would embarrass Hopkins at this point of his career. Hopkins just fights sloppy now, even when he beat Pavlik there were moments that he was just sloppy because of his age. If that was Hopkins in his prime he would of tkoed Pavlik. People just don't realize how much of his skill degraded and because of that he would stance no chance against Dawson. Hopkins better be sharp as hell when (or if) if he fights Dawson, because that's the only way he's going to win.

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            • circleinsidebox
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              #166
              Originally posted by KiloTeague
              Dude this post is ridiculous

              This is what happens when 5 year boxing fans get on catch the tail end of someone career, and judge him on it. Theres just to much to say, but I say about 2% of it. i've been watching boxing since 1990, first fight i witnessed was tyson vs douglas, watched it with my grandfather on VHS
              he recorded all the fights, just as i do now

              I like the Roy Jones Jr. Measuring stick for him. People say he lost to Roy. Well I say he's the only one that gave roy a fight over Roy's 15 year run of tolal and complete domination fo the sport, one that has never been seen and probably never will be seen again. my child, have u seen roy vs eric harding....lol....harding gave him a tougher fight that NARD could ever with roy at his best

              Did you watch the You tube bro?
              i actually have it on vhs thanks to grandpa

              I know that was more punches thrown in that one round than you have witnessed in his career. Thats The monster that Roy had to face, not this slower, weaker 40+ that was so good then that hes still better than the youg stars

              Bernard with knocked pavlick out in two rounds in his prime.

              Noone dominated like Roy. Watch all of his fights and then talk to me, youve only seen since he turned 34. You started Watching Bernard when he turned 37. been watching bernard since sergio mercado thanks to grandpa

              Remember Jordan at 25. Remeber him at 37. Same exact thing with both these fighters. The fact that they are still even getting into the same ring with young guys tells you how great they once were.
              jordan didn't play at 37 for the record, thats pointless but
              i will expose this later when i kan get on youtube and show
              you jordan at 39 doing the same **** minus the 40" inch vertical, 35" aint bad
              i will finish responding to this ignorance later

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              • El Dominicano
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                #167
                B-Hop wasn't even in his prime against JT/ Calzaghe...

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                • circleinsidebox
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
                  Hilarious that most experts consider Hopkins one of the greatest fighters of all time. Look at what he's doing at his age. Yet you don't even consider him a legend?? That's ****ed up.

                  expert?
                  what's the definition of an expert?
                  last time i checked, they bled and breathed just as u and i both do
                  why does their opinion hold more value
                  than my own, or your own, they are only human as u and i both are
                  stop playing peasant in the pyramid scheme you exist within....
                  he's not a legend, he is a great fighter
                  at this age, lol....he lost to jermain TWICE, joe ONCE beat tarver, wright and pavlik... he is 3-3 at his extended age
                  its not like he is dominated all 6 fights and set the ring on fire
                  he had 3 clear LOSSES, 1 ugly win (wright) and 2 dominant (tarver ,pavlik)
                  great fighter,
                  no legend

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                  • circleinsidebox
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by El Dominicano
                    B-Hop wasn't even in his prime against JT/ Calzaghe...
                    lol here we go, THE PRIME FACTOR
                    how do you measure this prime?
                    how do you know when prime ceases to exist?
                    last fight before jermain taylor was howard eastman
                    bernard dominated him rather easily...
                    and im sure you will agree jermain wasn't in his prime
                    when he faced b hop.....
                    so explain when exactly did bernard exit his prime LOL

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                    • El Dominicano
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by TheManchine
                      Hopkins lost to Jones when he was young and clearly not the boxer he later became, the losses to Taylor and Calzaghe were past 40+ years old and those decisions could've gone either way really.

                      Roy was knocked cold twice in his mid-30's yet Hopkins is supposedly overrated for losing split decisions as an old man. I just don't see the logic in that.
                      Well said and thats all that needs to be said

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