Components of the Lead Jab: the Falling Step

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  • bsrizpac
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    #41
    Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
    Thanks for the advice... Are you a boxer or a boxing trainer?
    I was a boxer. I have worked with trainers and trained people but not directly (aka lead trainer or anything like that). I've been part of that process let's put it that way.

    I mean that's fine if you are flicking a showy jab out there but then make sure you are doubling and tripling it up. I mean think about it. you throw your jab out then immediately throw a right. What happens?

    You do this over and over and over again the opponent sees a pattern.

    This guy is just flicking the jab jumping in with a right then backing straight out. There are a billion ways to counter and time that and that's probably what is happening to you.

    You really need to work on footwork footowork. Practice pivoting and turning your opponent. Do not just stand right in front of him then back straight off. I'm telling you, you WILL be mowed down by anyone with experience even in sparring.

    Did you ever see the Hopkins vs. Taylor 1 fight?

    I suggest you watch the Tenth round. Hopkins sets him up for this the whole fight. He leads in with a hook, Taylor ducks and backs up (leaps out) straight back in a line...Hopkins has been saying Taylor back out straight the whole fight and as Taylor comes up to jump back he unloads a monster right hand that hurts Taylor badly.

    Anyone that ignores the importance of setting up angles should watch that moment over and over and over again.

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      #42
      Originally posted by bsrizpac
      I was a boxer. I have worked with trainers and trained people but not directly (aka lead trainer or anything like that). I've been part of that process let's put it that way.

      I mean that's fine if you are flicking a showy jab out there but then make sure you are doubling and tripling it up. I mean think about it. you throw your jab out then immediately throw a right. What happens?

      You do this over and over and over again the opponent sees a pattern.

      This guy is just flicking the jab jumping in with a right then backing straight out. There are a billion ways to counter and time that and that's probably what is happening to you.

      You really need to work on footwork footowork. Practice pivoting and turning your opponent. Do not just stand right in front of him then back straight off. I'm telling you, you WILL be mowed down by anyone with experience even in sparring.

      Did you ever see the Hopkins vs. Taylor 1 fight?

      I suggest you watch the Tenth round. Hopkins sets him up for this the whole fight. He leads in with a hook, Taylor ducks and backs up (leaps out) straight back in a line...Hopkins has been saying Taylor back out straight the whole fight and as Taylor comes up to jump back he unloads a monster right hand that hurts Taylor badly.

      Anyone that ignores the importance of setting up angles should watch that moment over and over and over again.
      Also as an additional point, I'd suggest you watch overall tons of amateur and olympic fights and very few pro fights. Watch and build on fundamentals, not flashy ****.

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        #43
        Originally posted by bsrizpac
        Also as an additional point, I'd suggest you watch overall tons of amateur and olympic fights and very few pro fights. Watch and build on fundamentals, not flashy ****.
        Another question, are you formally trained?

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