Components of the Lead Jab: the Falling Step

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  • Ishy Aytan
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    #31
    Originally posted by bsrizpac
    SO you do it in straight lines? that works for you?
    What do you mean by straight lines?

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    • bsrizpac
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      #32
      Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
      Well it's the right jab used by the right person more like it. As a trainer myself, the biggest thing I try and do is teach someone that has certian qualities. In other words, if you are a fast, light footed type athlete, boxing is better suited for you.

      If you are more of a puncher and a plodder, then a brawling style better suits you. My point that, your right there is no right or wrong way to throw a jab but there is a right or wrong jab for certian people.

      Not everyone can get away with keeping thier hands low and fighting in a way that would expose their chin.

      I always try and teach fundamentals to my students.

      Very good post and great points. I want to try my hand at full time coaching and training but I'm too busy with real life and work right now. But yeah you are exactly right and I think this is the nuance a lot of trainers miss.

      It's very easy to teach a style "Peek a boo" to everyone, but the guy who can mold an athlete to their strengths and enhance those, those are the all time great coaches in any sport.

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      • S.G.
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        #33
        good read

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        • bsrizpac
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          #34
          Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
          What do you mean by straight lines?
          You said, you leap in and then straight back out.

          You jump back out straight in front of the opponent?

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          • Ishy Aytan
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            #35
            Originally posted by bsrizpac
            You said, you leap in and then straight back out.

            You jump back out straight in front of the opponent?

            Okay... yes. I only throw my jab as a means of demonstrating my speed. I like to lead in with the right after i step out after throwing my jab.

            I get countered if i stay in the same position after throwing the jab... So i started stepping out of range after throwing it.

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            • bsrizpac
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              #36
              Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
              Okay... yes. I only throw my jab as a means of demonstrating my speed. I like to lead in with the right after i step out after throwing my jab.

              I get countered if i stay in the same position after throwing the jab... So i started stepping out of range after throwing it.
              You should be stepping to the side to create angles. Never back straight out. And experience fighter should be able to destroy you.

              Unless you have Floyd Mayweather type speed, very few guys tend to get away with this.

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              • Ishy Aytan
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                #37
                Originally posted by bsrizpac
                You should be stepping to the side to create angles. Never back straight out. And experience fighter should be able to destroy you.

                Unless you have Floyd Mayweather type speed, very few guys tend to get away with this.

                lol... my speed is no where near Floyd's!

                Yep, this is what i'm trying to improve... I just keep getting countered. Its only the jab i get countered with a lot. When i move out of range after landing the jab, i find it easier to box.

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                • bsrizpac
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
                  lol... my speed is no where near Floyd's!

                  Yep, this is what i'm trying to improve... I just keep getting countered. Its only the jab i get countered with a lot. When i move out of range after landing the jab, i find it easier to box.
                  Right that's why I am saying. Don't back straight out. Practice landing the jab the stepping outside of his jab. out of range of his power hand. Practice in the mirror

                  Land the jab, then step outside. Repeat. Do this in a circle. Do this over and over. I'd recommend at least 100 rounds 3 minutes each total before you even try this on anyway.

                  Then instead of backing out when you land your jab, you immediately pivot to your right or sidetep out of harms way.

                  Btw, you are getting countered because you are being timed not because of speed and because you step back in a straight line. Speed might counter you at first, but unless it's ungodly speed you should be able to time when the person is going to throw.

                  They are seeing you fall into a pattern basically.

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                  • Ishy Aytan
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bsrizpac
                    Right that's why I am saying. Don't back straight out. Practice landing the jab the stepping outside of his jab. out of range of his power hand. Practice in the mirror

                    Land the jab, then step outside. Repeat. Do this in a circle. Do this over and over. I'd recommend at least 100 rounds 3 minutes each total before you even try this on anyway.

                    Then instead of backing out when you land your jab, you immediately pivot to your right or sidetep out of harms way.

                    Btw, you are getting countered because you are being timed not because of speed and because you step back in a straight line. Speed might counter you at first, but unless it's ungodly speed you should be able to time when the person is going to throw.

                    They are seeing you fall into a pattern basically.

                    Thanks for the advice... Are you a boxer or a boxing trainer?

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                    • j3kk
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                      #40
                      i dont know if were talking about the same jab but evander holyfield and bernard hopkins uses this.

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