Nice Article why 60-40 split in Favor of Pacquiao

[TonyJ]

lol!

We're talking about the buys here in the US! We don't even know how much Pacman rakes in in the Philippines everytime his fights are televised there. And some say Hatton will draw 50,000 easy, if the fight will be held there in England. Did you know that Luisito Espinosa was watched by 200,000 people there in the Philippines when he fought there? Imagine what would be the numbers if Pacman fights there again!

Hatton-Mayweather drew 850K, don't exaggerate your numbers here, and who gives a hoot if he had 1000 gazillion buys for the Malignaggi fight in the UK? None of these matters because the writer even suggested Hatton keeps his own and vice-versa...

YOu are dumb, the writer is dumb.
We are taling about the OVERALL SPLIT. If you give Manny the PI-rights, Ricky the UK-rights and split the US-rights 60-40, overall Ricky would get by FAAAAAAR the bigger split.
Look man, even if this **** does ~1M PPV Buys in the US (it won't happen) it will FOR SURE DO > 1M buys in the UK
US PPV lets say 1M Buys a 50bucks (i guess it will make arround 600K but ok lets make 1M Buys) = 50M in PPV-Buys ==> 50% for the cable stations ===> 25M==> 7-9% for HBO (ok lets say HBO takes only 7%) ==> 23,25M $ for both.

SO PPV-fee in THE US 23,25M $ (if it does 1M PPV-Buys which again is very very doubtful).

Live-Gate will bring ~15M$ wihtout a doubt ===> mainly (~80%) HAtton supporters. Lower percantage compared to the Mayweather-fight because FLoyd has no real fanbase

UK-Rights: It will do AT LEAST 1M BUYS. AT LEAST!!! For his Mayweather-Fight Ricky got over 70% (with the UK-rights he earned 40M$!!!!!!for the fight) from the whole cake.
LOok: 30$ * 1M BUYS ===> 30M $ ==> 70% = 21M $

So at the end of the day the UK-PPV-Rights will properly be more worth than the US-Buys (as the case was for the MAyweather-fight).

Giving Ricky the UK-fights would give him the lion's share by far.
PPL should stop comparing the live-gates in the UK with the gates in Mexico or even the PI (as the Tv rights). HAtton or Calzaghe draw 50K ppl without real promo. The ticket prices start regularry arround 100$! (for Hatton's last fight it was less), so you can't compare it to the PI, Where the whole live-gate for Mannys last fight was not worth 1M $...
Old fox Arum arranged a very, very good deal for Manny. I can't believe Team Hatton agreed, cause Ricky is the bigger draw without a doubt. But Manny truly deserves a equal split because he is p4p the very best fighter. But know stop being greedy and take the fair offer.

[gopi11]

I'm not making money off of this fight, so **** it, and I'm just quoting the writer's suggestion. Both boxers can do what's best for them, but what I'm suggesting is, for both fighters to get 40% off whatever the fight will make and fight for the 20% with the winner taking it, it will make the fight more interesting and more motivation for both boxers


...and I'm sure there will be more than 20% of the live audience who will be rooting for Pacman

80% Ricky's fans, get real man...

[Mushashi]

Sky Box Office said that the total buys for Mayweather vs Hatton hit 1.4 million... It generated over 20 million in revenue...

But we musnt forget, its HBO's show... and they dont really give a **** about the ppv figures over in the U.K. In their eyes, Mannys been more prodominent in the ppv rankings than Hatton, hence why Pacman will proberly get the higher purse.

Whoa, that's a pretty low revenue considering the amount of buys.

[mellow_mood]

Pacquiao Deserves At Least 60 Percent Against Ricky Hatton

The Formula is Quite Simple…

John Chavez
1/12/2009

I don’t understand why people must make things so goddamn complicated when it comes to boxing negotiations. It’s as if they must amplify the simplest and most minute details when it comes to virtually anything in order to mask the fact that the business is actually quite simple.

Here are the facts:

Manny Pacquiao has headlined 7 HBO Pay-Per-View bouts in the history of his career in which he‘s gone 6-1, with four by way of knockout.

Ricky Hatton has headlined only one in which he went 0-1 while getting knocked out himself.

Pacquiao’s live gate following has been quite strong since his first bout with Juan Manuel Marquez which took place in 2004 on HBO. His fans consist of most Filipinos residing… all across the country and the world.

Hatton’s live gate following has been on a roller coaster ride being that the “Hitman” contingent is asked to travel half-way around the world in order to see their hero perform.

“The Pacman” is coming off a devastating knockout victory over the biggest figure within boxing over the past decade in Oscar De la Hoya. It was an eye-opening experience that drew 1.25 million viewers which is astonishing considering the current state of the economy.

“The Hitman” is coming off an aesthetically displeasing bout with Paulie Malignaggi that drew miserable ratings on HBO’s World Championship boxing.

It’s clear who is the more exciting fighter to watch especially amongst the American public… without a doubt the southpaw beast from the far east.

Being that both men can generate solid dollars from the television rights of their native lands, I say that it’d be fair to let both of them keep all of the money spent by their own people. However, when it comes to the HBO Pay-Per-View part… that’s a different story.

Pacquiao deserves the lion’s share based on the points outlined above. It’s irrelevant if 30,000 brits fly over to see the bout live. It has little bearing on the amount of Pay-Per-View buys that the bout will draw here in the states.

So there we have it… Hatton gets the UK, Pac gets the PI, and the domestic split is 63 percent in favor of Manny. It’s as simple as that…



PS. Why don’t the promoters try something crazy and actually let the boxing public buy the live gate? Sell the tickets for reasonable prices and let boxing fans who support the “sweet science” all year long attend the extravaganza. I know… what an absurd idea.

PPS. For those that state that Hatton could draw over 50,000 spectators in Manchester... Put Pacquiao in AT&T Park in San Francisco and he could easily match that figure without a doubt.

unless pac.. fight an unkown name fighter in a ppv card and bring the numbers ... then he will have a point..... until then...

50-50 is fair enough....

[BetterCallSaul]

Whoa, that's a pretty low revenue considering the amount of buys.

Ł20m which was at the time $40

And that was just the amount Ricky made himself. The fights revenue was probably a lot higher.

[RisAri0]

Pacquiao sees nothing from PI in terms of revenue... they air all PPV fights there for free

[_WILLIAM HUNG_]

Pacquiao Deserves At Least 60 Percent Against Ricky Hatton

The Formula is Quite Simple…

John Chavez
1/12/2009

I don’t understand why people must make things so goddamn complicated when it comes to boxing negotiations. It’s as if they must amplify the simplest and most minute details when it comes to virtually anything in order to mask the fact that the business is actually quite simple.

Here are the facts:

Manny Pacquiao has headlined 7 HBO Pay-Per-View bouts in the history of his career in which he‘s gone 6-1, with four by way of knockout.

Ricky Hatton has headlined only one in which he went 0-1 while getting knocked out himself.

Pacquiao’s live gate following has been quite strong since his first bout with Juan Manuel Marquez which took place in 2004 on HBO. His fans consist of most Filipinos residing… all across the country and the world.

Hatton’s live gate following has been on a roller coaster ride being that the “Hitman” contingent is asked to travel half-way around the world in order to see their hero perform.

“The Pacman” is coming off a devastating knockout victory over the biggest figure within boxing over the past decade in Oscar De la Hoya. It was an eye-opening experience that drew 1.25 million viewers which is astonishing considering the current state of the economy.

“The Hitman” is coming off an aesthetically displeasing bout with Paulie Malignaggi that drew miserable ratings on HBO’s World Championship boxing.

It’s clear who is the more exciting fighter to watch especially amongst the American public… without a doubt the southpaw beast from the far east.

Being that both men can generate solid dollars from the television rights of their native lands, I say that it’d be fair to let both of them keep all of the money spent by their own people. However, when it comes to the HBO Pay-Per-View part… that’s a different story.

Pacquiao deserves the lion’s share based on the points outlined above. It’s irrelevant if 30,000 brits fly over to see the bout live. It has little bearing on the amount of Pay-Per-View buys that the bout will draw here in the states.

So there we have it… Hatton gets the UK, Pac gets the PI, and the domestic split is 63 percent in favor of Manny. It’s as simple as that…



PS. Why don’t the promoters try something crazy and actually let the boxing public buy the live gate? Sell the tickets for reasonable prices and let boxing fans who support the “sweet science” all year long attend the extravaganza. I know… what an absurd idea.

PPS. For those that state that Hatton could draw over 50,000 spectators in Manchester... Put Pacquiao in AT&T Park in San Francisco and he could easily match that figure without a doubt.

Gud alticle 60-40 POL Pacyao

[Pullcounter]

Pacquiao Deserves At Least 60 Percent Against Ricky Hatton


Here are the facts:

Manny Pacquiao has headlined 7 HBO Pay-Per-View bouts in the history of his career in which he‘s gone 6-1, with four by way of knockout.

Ricky Hatton has headlined only one in which he went 0-1 while getting knocked out himself.

Pacquiao’s live gate following has been quite strong since his first bout with Juan Manuel Marquez which took place in 2004 on HBO. His fans consist of most Filipinos residing… all across the country and the world.

Hatton’s live gate following has been on a roller coaster ride being that the “Hitman” contingent is asked to travel half-way around the world in order to see their hero perform.

“The Pacman” is coming off a devastating knockout victory over the biggest figure within boxing over the past decade in Oscar De la Hoya. It was an eye-opening experience that drew 1.25 million viewers which is astonishing considering the current state of the economy.

“The Hitman” is coming off an aesthetically displeasing bout with Paulie Malignaggi that drew miserable ratings on HBO’s World Championship boxing.

It’s clear who is the more exciting fighter to watch especially amongst the American public… without a doubt the southpaw beast from the far east.

those are facts that are indisputable.

[hammerhiem]

those are facts that are indisputable.

Hatton has fought more than 1 PPV I can't remember if Tzsyu was the first or if he went PPV after Tzsyu, I watched that fight in a pub so i'm not 100% sure, I do know he hasn't been in non PPV since in the UK.

Hatton sold out MGM Grand and a cool million PPV Vs malinaggi.

Looks like you're 0 for 2 on facts Pull.

[americanme]

Im thinking pac wants 60/40 of the US hbo PPV'S..Hatton will STILL make more money from the UK buys...


just make the fight guys.