Manny Pacquiao Will Not Accept 50-50 Split For Hatton Fight

[Chase8400]

Well I disagree on the latter part. He was still a significantly smaller guy hopping up multiple divisions to take on DLH.

For whatever its worth i think Pacquiao gives DLH trouble at any point in his career. Oscar has always had trouble with guys who could match speed with him, and I don't see how Oscar's hesitance and ability to catch straight lefts with his face would be any difference.

I'd say at this point that Manny is more popular, not in the UK obviously, but just about everywhere else in the world. All told, its just posturing by both sides. The fight will happen, and the money talk is just a smokescreen to keep people talking about it in January.

I hope you are right.

In my opinion, beating Oscar meant nothing because had Manny lost that fight nobody would have taken any credit away from him for losing to a much bigger opponent. Having won the fight with how poorly Oscar performed should not get him all that much credit either, so that makes the fight a money-maker only, as far as I am concerned. I have to admit that I gave Oscar a good chance to win before the fight though. I just didn't think he would come in and walk around not throwing punches all night. Freddie Roach called it right after all.

[wmute]

Someone help me out with numbers here.

What made more money?

1) Mayweather-Hatton
2) De La Hoya-Pacquiao.

Under the safe assumption that De La Hoya is a bigger draw then Mayweather we can observe that.

If the answer is 1) by a fairly large number we can conclude: Ricky Hatton is a bigger draw than Manny Pacquiao

If it's 2) it is complicated by the fact that Oscar is a bigger draw than Floyd, and we should quantify that difference, before making a judgment call

Some considerations should me made on outside options too. It seems Pac has more lucrative ones.

[Pullcounter]

last thing casual fans remember about pac is destroying dlh. the last thing casual boxing fans remember about hatton is getting KTFO by floyd.

[Dave Rado]

Someone help me out with numbers here.

What made more money?

1) Mayweather-Hatton
2) De La Hoya-Pacquiao.

Including UK buys, Mayweather-Hatton, see eno666's post:

Come on Pacman is massively popular but he doesn't have the PAYING fan base like Hatton does. This is the key point. 20,000 Brits will likely fly to Vegas and fill the casino's and arena. This fight will most likely do under 1 million PPV buys in the States but could well do up to 2 million PPV buys in the UK.

With Hatton bringing so much money to this fight how the hell can he be expected to take a 60-40 split? It's crazy!!

My PPV estimates are based on Mayweather v Hatton doing 900k in the States and around 1.6 mill in the UK. I believe DLH V Pac did around 1.25 mill in the States. So it is hard to see Pac v Hatton can do over a mill in the States when they were both the secondary draw in fights that averaged just over 1 mill.

In the UK however Hattons popularity grew after the Mayweather fight and the chance to see Hatton fight the p4p 1 for a second time, when that fighter has just knocked out DLH makes it a mouth watering clash. It is hard to measure but I feel DLH and Pac could both be more popular in the UK than floyd.

[Dave Rado]

Hatton only brings brits. Pac brings FILIPINOS from ALL OVER the world. Especially the Middle EAST! Huge Political figures from the PHilippines visit pacquiao. Huge Hollywood names like Mark Wahlberg, Usher, and others come to visit Pacquiao. The Boston Celtics visits pacquiao. 60/40 for pacquiao!

Most Filipinos in the Middle East are dirt poor. The political figures etc. who visit him aren't enough in number to significantly affect the PPV figures or the gate or the casino takings. Yes he's more of an international celebrity than Hatton but that doesn't mean he sells more fight tickets - Hatton sells more.

[5punchcombo]

Manny Pacquiao doesn't bring 10,000 of his countrymen across the world to Vegas accompanied with their own band equipment that could drone out the high notes of any National Anthem.

yea but he is P4P the best. And he will KO Ricky

[RisAri0]

a 60-40 split is reasonable since Ricky lives in a rich country with better currency and Pacquiao lives in a poor country w/ pesos...plus Manny won't see any revenue generated in the UK, it all goes to the Hitman.... can't u see Pacquiao's team just wants an equal value of the cut?... makes sense don't it?

we're comparing pounds to pesos here lol...

[*Dinamita]

pacquiao wont be making the same kind of money against hatton unless he fights oscar again or bring mayweather out of retirement of course..


if hatton is smart, he should demand "50/50 or no fight!" that will get him

[bigdaddyJ]

50 50 mannys fans 30 40 per household.manny should get only PPV IN PINAS> AND HATTON SHOULD GET THE ONES IN ENGLAND THATS FAIR ENOUGH FOR THAT FLIP

[MOREBASS]

I hope you are right.

In my opinion, beating Oscar meant nothing because had Manny lost that fight nobody would have taken any credit away from him for losing to a much bigger opponent. Having won the fight with how poorly Oscar performed should not get him all that much credit either, so that makes the fight a money-maker only, as far as I am concerned.

No, it was a lose-lose for Oscar, regardless of the outcome of the fight, and a win-win for Manny either way as well.

It seems as if everyone is accounting the win to Oscar's mishaps, as opposed to Manny's great performance. Very dissapointing.

I have to admit that I gave Oscar a good chance to win before the fight though. I just didn't think he would come in and walk around not throwing punches all night. Freddie Roach called it right after all.

That is simply not true.

In fact, I didn't hear anyone complaining about Oscar's punch output when he fought Floyd.

He threw 587 punches in that fight in 12 rounds total.

Against Manny, he threw 402 in just 8 rounds.


I'm not seeing the huge discrepancy in punch output here. This also goes against the whole dehydrated, and weight drained argument that everyone is making, because if he was so dehydrated and weight drained, then why wasn't his punch output significantly lower than it was in the Floyd fight, where he was the much busier fighter ?