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  • hammerhiem
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    #111
    Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
    it seems you are telling me of greatness is accrdng to wins...then Julio Cesar Chavez is the greatest in 89 fights of quality opponents he was undefeated...its the rivalry of elite champions during their peak time, what matters most for greatness...
    So what your saying is that you can't find any credible sources that don't rank SRR as No1 or 2.

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    • znarfv_y2k8
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      #112
      Originally posted by hammerhiem
      Name your top ten P4P all time.

      You claim SRR isn't so you need to tell us the boxing fans who YOU think is.
      but it happens that Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Lennox Lewis and Pacman has the rivalry of elite champion all in their peak time...all of them succeed as the best and as hall of famers and future hall of famers..

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        #113
        Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
        but it happens that Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Lennox Lewis and Pacman has the rivalry of elite champion all in their peak time...all of them succeed as the best and as hall of famers and future hall of famers..
        So ok we have

        1. Ali
        2. Leonard
        3. Lennox Lewis
        4. Pacman.

        Any more you want to throw in from 6-10? I hear David Tua fought Lennox once.

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          #114
          Originally posted by hammerhiem
          So what your saying is that you can't find any credible sources that don't rank SRR as No1 or 2.

          Thanks for playing.
          how could you put duran on the list, yes duran has longest winning streak compared to his batch during their peak time but he's on the bottom of the magic four....he lost to the Sugar ray, hagler and hearns...

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            #115
            Originally posted by hammerhiem
            So what your saying is that you can't find any credible sources that don't rank SRR as No1 or 2.

            Thanks for playing.
            sugar ray robinson just look his record and watch his video...compare it to anyone i've listed...its all about rivalry of elite champion at their peak time...the magic 4

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              #116
              Originally posted by hammerhiem
              So ok we have

              1. Ali
              2. Leonard
              3. Lennox Lewis
              4. Pacman.

              Any more you want to throw in from 6-10? I hear David Tua fought Lennox once.
              no there's a lot more...5 different weight division champion dela hoya and owns a record of the highest pay per view buys and roy jones they are great fighters....but they lack the so called rivalries of the magic 4...

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                #117
                Originally posted by hammerhiem
                So ok we have

                1. Ali
                2. Leonard
                3. Lennox Lewis
                4. Pacman.

                Any more you want to throw in from 6-10? I hear David Tua fought Lennox once.
                if you consider an unbeaten record based to greatness then there is rocky marciano, joe calzaghe, but greatness isn't only that simple it needs rivalries of elite champions at their peak time at the same time...

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                  #118
                  lmao.. thred hijacked!

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by hammerhiem
                    So ok we have

                    1. Ali
                    2. Leonard
                    3. Lennox Lewis
                    4. Pacman.

                    Any more you want to throw in from 6-10? I hear David Tua fought Lennox once.
                    and if we consider greatness based on record who else greater than dela hoya he has 5 different weight division as champion...but only mosley and trinidad are elite champions as his rivals...vargas and mayorga were only class A champions....so i don't consider him as the greatest even he defeated julio cesar chavez....

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                      #120
                      Sugar ray Robinson is who people are caompaired to you idiot, he's the pinacle of the sport, the most decorated and lauded fighter of All time.

                      The guy that Ali said is the greatest, the guy who lost once in his first 200 fights as Amateur and pro, the guy who beat the best in his era and the era after that at welterweight AND middleweight for 20 years

                      The guy that the term pound for pound was invented because of, A guy so good that in 25 years as a Pro TWENTY FIVE! he was only KO'd once and that was due to heat exhaustion, and of his 19 defeats 15 came when he was over the age of 38.

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