Pacquiao wants a 60-40 or Call it Quits!

[znarfv_y2k8]

So ok we have

1. Ali
2. Leonard
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Pacman.

Any more you want to throw in from 6-10? I hear David Tua fought Lennox once.

you have evander holyfield on the list but was beaten by bowe and lewis at their peak...is it a credible list, ooh come on...

[hammerhiem]

You know Holyfield was a Cruiserweight right and his resume includes:

Linear and unified Cruiserweght Champion.
Unified heavyweight Champion
James Buster Douglas
George Foreman
Larry Homes
Mike Tysonx2
Rid**** Bowe
Micheal Moorer

His resume read like a Who's Who of that era's top Heavyweights and cruiserweights of his time.

[andrewcuff]

I'd say multiple wins over Jake LaMotta, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer and Carl Olson are pretty impressive.

You also keep talking about the 'Magic 4'. Remember Sugar Ray Leonard? He was once part of a magic four. Ever heard what he had to say about Robinson:

"Someone once said there was a comparison between Sugar Ray Leonard and Sugar Ray Robinson. Believe me, there's no comparison. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest"

[znarfv_y2k8]

Sugar ray Robinson is who people are caompaired to you idiot, he's the pinacle of the sport, the most decorated and lauded fighter of All time.

The guy that Ali said is the greatest, the guy who lost once in his first 200 fights as Amateur and pro, the guy who beat the best in his era and the era after that at welterweight AND middleweight for 20 years

The guy that the term pound for pound was invented because of, A guy so good that in 25 years as a Pro TWENTY FIVE! he was only KO'd once and that was due to heat exhaustion, and of his 19 defeats 15 came when he was over the age of 38.

can you please enumerate the best in his era that he beats...i want to know if they're elite champions of their own who was beaten by srr...i admire srr but i've seen his fight his not that impressive in reality only because he has many wins but it doesn't mean his the greatest....to be the greatest you have to fight with the best as to beat fellow elite champions at their peak time...the only thing sometimes a twin to greatness is luck...because Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Lewis, Pacquiao, happens to have a magic 4 rivalries...thats what others don't have...especially with srr.....

[znarfv_y2k8]

I'd say multiple wins over Jake LaMotta, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer and Carl Olson are pretty impressive.

You also keep talking about the 'Magic 4'. Remember Sugar Ray Leonard? He was once part of a magic four. Ever heard what he had to say about Robinson:

"Someone once said there was a comparison between Sugar Ray Leonard and Sugar Ray Robinson. Believe me, there's no comparison. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest"

today pacquiao is still young, he still has brighter future ahead of him...he was compared to henry armstrong but if he can beat hatton and mayweather who are elite champion bigger than him believe me...every expert will say as pacquiao as the greatest boxer in history....as history in the making, pacquiao is a phenomenon...

[hammerhiem]

The only person who will say Pacman is No1 All time is you.

The very idea that you would even consider it is mindblowing frankly. and show how little you understand the history of the sport.

[andrewcuff]

I'm a very big fan of Pacquiao and I would love for him to beat both Hatton and Mayweather, but if he does he still won't be the best P4P of All Time because there are other boxers from history who are more skilled. Being the best of all time means a combination of complete, all-round boxing ability and opposition fought.

To answer your question though, I would rank him highly. Top 25 perhaps.

[hammerhiem]

I think he might make top 25 without the Hatton/PBF fights i would have him close to the top 10 if he beat them both.

for him to make P4P No1 he would have to:

have a trilogy with Hatton, have a trilogy with PBF, beat cotto and marg, finish off a trilogy with JMM and even then i think SRR still gets ahead.

[znarfv_y2k8]

so thats already a nonsense...

[znarfv_y2k8]

I think he might make top 25 without the Hatton/PBF fights i would have him close to the top 10 if he beat them both.

for him to make P4P No1 he would have to:

have a trilogy with Hatton, have a trilogy with PBF, beat cotto and marg, finish off a trilogy with JMM and even then i think SRR still gets ahead.

so you don't even know what your talking about...you have mentioned of elite champions and you don't even mention the elite champions srr have beaten...ok that's all folks...thanks, maybe nxt time...