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  • #11
    Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
    You missed a couple of people. Especially in 2004's.

    Others you missed were Carl Daniels, Mark Johnson, Tim Austin, Carlos Navarro, and some more.
    and Berto in 03

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    • #12
      Originally posted by iBox4Real View Post
      and Berto in 03
      Interesting how this became a let-me-count-the-names-that-Dios-didn't highlight thread instead of a let-me-add-substantive-content thread.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
        You missed a couple of people. Especially in 2004's.

        Others you missed were Carl Daniels, Mark Johnson, Tim Austin, Carlos Navarro, and some more.
        Tim Austin is a huge name. He should definitely be highlighted, if no one else.

        That's Rafael Marquez's best win, outside of Vazquez I.

        To be honest, I don't have a lot to say about that list... generally the people on there are the champions who have traditional boxing skills, generally jab oriented, generally pretty quick.

        The typical "slickster" or whatever.

        Blah, sorry Dios, this might be the worst answer in the thread, although this bump might give you some better answers.

        EDIT: This obviously wasn't the worst answer... nevermind.

        And I noticed something.

        WHERE in the **** is Pernell Whitaker on that list? He got a gold at the Olympics, so he was a very accomplished amateur. Weird...

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        • #14
          I don't think Whitaker ever won the GGs.

          Anyways, some GGs winners achieved some very good thing in the pro ranks, some didn't. Same with Olympians.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Silencers View Post
            I don't think Whitaker ever won the GGs.

            Anyways, some GGs winners achieved some very good thing in the pro ranks, some didn't. Same with Olympians.
            Yeah, I didn't see him on the list. That's why I was so shocked. He's obviously one of the best fighters to ever fight, and was a stellar amateur too. I'm just surprised he never won the national championship (because that's pretty much what the GGs are, right?).

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            • #16
              Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
              Yeah, I didn't see him on the list. That's why I was so shocked. He's obviously one of the best fighters to ever fight, and was a stellar amateur too. I'm just surprised he never won the national championship (because that's pretty much what the GGs are, right?).
              Amateur boxing is fought on different levels depending on how good you are basically, the nationals and the regionals, the winner of the regional competitions normally go on to fight in the nationals, AAUs are national competitions as well, which Whitaker won.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
                Tim Austin is a huge name. He should definitely be highlighted, if no one else.

                That's Rafael Marquez's best win, outside of Vazquez I.

                To be honest, I don't have a lot to say about that list... generally the people on there are the champions who have traditional boxing skills, generally jab oriented, generally pretty quick.

                The typical "slickster" or whatever.

                Blah, sorry Dios, this might be the worst answer in the thread, although this bump might give you some better answers.

                EDIT: This obviously wasn't the worst answer... nevermind.

                And I noticed something.

                WHERE in the **** is Pernell Whitaker on that list? He got a gold at the Olympics, so he was a very accomplished amateur. Weird...
                Off topic: I'd say it was one of the Too Sharp Johnson wins. Mark had been on all the P4P lists for years before those losses. The Austin win was excellent probably better than the Vazquez fight because he was the favorite, but still, it was Rafa moving up for the Lineal, Ring, and WBC Championship.

                With an average of say 1-3 GG winners per year making themselves known, let alone a title or title shot, I'd say they didn't fulfill their potential.

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                • #18
                  Wow so David diaz fought at 139 for years at amatuer level and he still fights at 135 years later as a pro???? He must be killing himself to cut the weight.

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                  • #19
                    Bernard Taylor and James Shuler didn't, though Shuler at the time couldn't help his unfortunate demise.Clint Jackson is another one that comes to mind, as is Jimmy Clark.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
                      1999
                      106 - Brian Viloria - Wisconsin
                      Wtf? I thought he was the "Hawaiian Punch?" Maybe it's some different guy.. but the weight seems to say otherwise.

                      Also looking at his bio at Wikipedia he has nothing to do with Wisconsin lol.

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