Prime Kosta Tszyu vs Todays Manny Pacquio????

[fcastro1]

how long have you been watching/doing boxing to come up with this pearl?

I guess you should have used Corrales and Castillo performance against Maywether to pick in Corrales-Castillo.

Or Ali and Foreman performance against Frazier and Norton to pick in Foreman-Ali

and so on...

Unless pac comes in the hatton fight with the plan to fight him on the inside (which I am betting *anything* is not going to be his plan), there is nothing to be learned on how he would do against zoo. nothing.

but if pac beats the man that beat the man, then we can safetly say that pac has a good chance. because a lot of people in here think he has not got a chance.

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but if pac beats the man that beat the man, then we can safetly say that pac has a good chance. because a lot of people in here think he has not got a chance.

Not really... not more than if he beat someone who never faced zoo...

Mayweather struggles with Castillo and demolishes in almost ridiculizing fashion Corrales------>Corrales beats Castillo in a fight of the century candidate.

Foreman destroys the man (Frazier) who beat (and floored) the man (Ali). Ali KOs Foreman in 9.

Styles make fights. end of the story. Zoo and Hatton fight nothing alike. nothing. The only thing they have in common is their stance, not even ther power hand! Not to mention that Zoo was 35 when he fought Hatton and we are talking about prime Zoo here here.

[xxjace]

Would have been a great fight!!

[RodBarker]

I reckon KT would have heaps of problems with the speed and movement and Manny is all class and better than any KT opponent , Ive always thought KT was over rated and never fought anyone great that was near prime , he got a lot of hype from a very green Judah and Judah turned out to be chinney as a fighter anyway , Hec Lopez gave KT all he could handle and Phillips flogged him , Manny would be a big chance without a doubt .

[Silencers]

I am interested specifically in your opinion, which I respect.

I see this as a horrible style matchup for Pac. You see something I don't see in Pac's ability to not get hit. I am curious why you think so?

I have not seeing anything friom Pac which makes me think he would manage to stay out of trouble long enough.

I agree that he is very fast, but the only fights in which I have seen hints of a defensive mind have been the last two, and prime Zoo is a different beast than Diaz or this version of Oscar. Not to mention that straight right lands like a beauty on a southpaw.

I just think Pacquiao, with his physical gifts and Roach would devise a gameplan to beat Tszyu by using his movement along with adequate pressure to make Tszyu uncomfortable, the 1-2-3 turn move that he's been using would be effective IMO and he's a really tough guy to time, he has an awkward rhythm, it took a master counterpuncher in JMM to have some success in timing him, is Tszyu's timing better than JMM's? That's debatable, but if he manages to time Pacquiao and land that right hand bomb, as I said, it's good night for Pacquiao, a Tszyu knockout is entirely possible but if it goes to the cards, I think it'd be a very close fight with Pacquiao perhaps getting the decision.

[ferocity]

I reckon KT would have heaps of problems with the speed and movement and Manny is all class and better than any KT opponent , Ive always thought KT was over rated and never fought anyone great that was near prime , he got a lot of hype from a very green Judah and Judah turned out to be chinney as a fighter anyway , Hec Lopez gave KT all he could handle and Phillips flogged him , Manny would be a big chance without a doubt .

You think Torre Campo could ko Tszyu?

Judah chinny but who else beat him like Tszyu did?

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I reckon KT would have heaps of problems with the speed and movement and Manny is all class and better than any KT opponent , Ive always thought KT was over rated and never fought anyone great that was near prime , he got a lot of hype from a very green Judah and Judah turned out to be chinney as a fighter anyway , Hec Lopez gave KT all he could handle and Phillips flogged him , Manny would be a big chance without a doubt .

Judah chinny?

He didnt look chinny against Cotto or Mayweather, and he took a lot of punishment in those fights.

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I just think Pacquiao, with his physical gifts and Roach would devise a gameplan to beat Tszyu by using his movement along with adequate pressure to make Tszyu uncomfortable, the 1-2-3 turn move that he's been using would be effective IMO and he's a really tough guy to time, he has an awkward rhythm, it took a master counterpuncher in JMM to have some success in timing him, is Tszyu's timing better than JMM's? That's debatable, but if he manages to time Pacquiao and land that right hand bomb, as I said, it's good night for Pacquiao, a Tszyu knockout is entirely possible but if it goes to the cards, I think it'd be a very close fight with Pacquiao perhaps getting the decision.

OK, I can definitely see Pac getting the decision if the fight goes to the cards. I don't think it will though. Zoo's bread and butter was counterpunching or timing that right hand and 12 rounds are a long time for a lefty who doesnt love defense or inside fighting too much to stay away from that punch.

[Silencers]

OK, I can definitely see Pac getting the decision if the fight goes to the cards. I don't think it will though. Zoo's bread and butter was counterpunching or timing that right hand and 12 rounds are a long time for a lefty who doesnt love defense or inside fighting too much to stay away from that punch.

Indeed, it's hard to say if Pacquiao could avoid Tszyu's right hand all night, if he can't, it would be a long night for him.

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I just think Pacquiao, with his physical gifts and Roach would devise a gameplan to beat Tszyu by using his movement along with adequate pressure to make Tszyu uncomfortable, the 1-2-3 turn move that he's been using would be effective IMO and he's a really tough guy to time, he has an awkward rhythm, it took a master counterpuncher in JMM to have some success in timing him, is Tszyu's timing better than JMM's? That's debatable, but if he manages to time Pacquiao and land that right hand bomb, as I said, it's good night for Pacquiao, a Tszyu knockout is entirely possible but if it goes to the cards, I think it'd be a very close fight with Pacquiao perhaps getting the decision.

I don't think its possible. Tszyu is one of if not THE smartest man to ever lace up a pair of gloves. The post Phillips Tszyu was an absolutely unstoppable animal. He was like a 140lb Wlad with a chin, defense, and combinations.