I just saw Cotto vs Margarito again...

[freedom213]

Please man stop down playing Marg’s boxing ability. Cotto couldn’t go to the body because Marg’s defense wouldn’t let him. Not because Cotto decide not to. Why in the world would arguably the best body puncher in the business not go to the body? With his experience and professionalism why would he not go to the body? Everyone knows/knew what kind of Chin Marg had. You telling me Cotto didn’t plan on working the body? That was Cotto's primary target. Am sure Cotto’s team worked on it especially for the fight. Everyone was banking on Cotto’s body work. But what happened, Marg neutralized that. To neutralize a fighter’s best weapon in a fighter of Cotto’s caliber, especially when focusably and motivatedly trained to use it, takes some serious skill not just a GOOD CHIN. In fact in this case the fighter's chin is irrelevant. Cotto stated it point blank that he found it impossible to go to Marg’s body. Cotto was in there with Marg not you. Seeing the fight from the outside comfortably at a different angle away from the fighter’s perspective can be a little different from the fighter’s experience. It’s like watching Texas holdup and calling all the right shots on exposed hands. Marg times shots very well also. Cotto didn't come into the fight looking the way he left the ring. I suggest re-watching the fight with the commentary off and focus on what Marg was doing. I know Marg may not have the prettiest style, but if you can look beyond that perhaps you can find a little appreciate of what he was able to do with such a tremendous fighter like Cotto.

Ive rewatched the fight many times you should reread my post and although I am a fan of Cotto I am also a fan of many other boxers, different styles etc, etc. I am not above criticism but No where did I downplay Margarito's "boxing ability" I simply said that Cotto did not focus enough on the body, that he had opportunities but was hitting Marg's to the head so often and cleanly that he thought Tony would not be able to maintain. But he did and he persevered, and won the fight. Margarito is a deceptive fighter in as much that he has a good jab, keeps his hands up and his elbows tucked, mixes straight and looping rights and has a crazy chin and endurance level which helps him to just keep comin and throwing tons of punches. He also executes his game plan very consistently, which is what led him to victory. You could see that he was frustrated after the fourth and fifth but he kept believing in what he was doing and when the accumulation caught up to Cotto it was downhill from there. Who couldnt be impressed with Tony's exhibition of will in that fight? But I still also think that Cotto can make adjustments to win, Tony will again have to fight the perfect fight to achieve the same results.

[littlemac]

Ive rewatched the fight many times you should reread my post and although I am a fan of Cotto I am also a fan of many other boxers, different styles etc, etc. I am not above criticism but No where did I downplay Margarito's "boxing ability" I simply said that Cotto did not focus enough on the body, that he had opportunities but was hitting Marg's to the head so often and cleanly that he thought Tony would not be able to maintain. But he did and he persevered, and won the fight. Margarito is a deceptive fighter in as much that he has a good jab, keeps his hands up and his elbows tucked, mixes straight and looping rights and has a crazy chin and endurance level which helps him to just keep comin and throwing tons of punches. He also executes his game plan very consistently, which is what led him to victory. You could see that he was frustrated after the fourth and fifth but he kept believing in what he was doing and when the accumulation caught up to Cotto it was downhill from there. Who couldnt be impressed with Tony's exhibition of will in that fight? But I still also think that Cotto can make adjustments to win, Tony will again have to fight the perfect fight to achieve the same results.

Marg made adjustments, but Cotto failed to counter because he was not physically and skillfully able to. Mistakes happen when you’re being overwhelmed beyond the pace you can normally execute them. Marg was the cause of Cotto’s mistakes.

[Im Horny]

i just saw cotto margarito again too. but with this one cotto ktfo margarito. what the hell?

[rj_ct]

he fought the wrong fight, margarito fought the right fight. all that useless lateral movement, only to end up in a shootout with his back to the ropes. there are 2 ways to fight a pressure fighter like margarito:

1) control with the jab from the outside
2) meet them in the middle of the ring

if you're going to get in a slugfest, you better do it in the middle of the ring, not with your back on the ropes.

[WaRCoTTo]

i just saw cotto margarito again too. but with this one cotto ktfo margarito. what the hell?

This nigga talented..you looked in to the future June 09!..amazing!!..

[freedom213]

Marg made adjustments, but Cotto failed to counter because he was not physically and skillfully able to. Mistakes happen when you’re being overwhelmed beyond the pace you can normally execute them. Marg was the cause of Cotto’s mistakes.

you are correct to a point, I saw very little adjustments made by Margarito

[littlemac]

he fought the wrong fight, margarito fought the right fight. all that useless lateral movement, only to end up in a shootout with his back to the ropes. there are 2 ways to fight a pressure fighter like margarito:

1) control with the jab from the outside
2) meet them in the middle of the ring

if you're going to get in a slugfest, you better do it in the middle of the ring, not with your back on the ropes.

Very true, but what happens when you can't constantly do 1 and 2. You end up with your back on the ropes or in this case on your knees.

[WaRCoTTo]

he fought the wrong fight, margarito fought the right fight. all that useless lateral movement, only to end up in a shootout with his back to the ropes. there are 2 ways to fight a pressure fighter like margarito:

1) control with the jab from the outside
2) meet them in the middle of the ring

if you're going to get in a slugfest, you better do it in the middle of the ring, not with your back on the ropes.

I agree with this to an extent..but the jab could only be so effective when ur opponent holds a 4" reach advantage over you..

[3_Hooks]

cotto just needs a better teacher.

[littlemac]

cotto just needs a better teacher.

Cool. I will add this one to list of excuses along with the ref not letting Cotto hit Marg's body without warning him of a low blow that some else mentioned. Thanks bud.