Anyone actually seen the Chris John vs JMM fight?

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • TheGR8TESTOAT
    Banned
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Nov 2006
    • 7022
    • 371
    • 573
    • 131,460

    #11
    Originally posted by DarchinyFAN
    I remember Tub-of-Goo Rafael got in trouble for commenting on the goings on of the fight before he actually saw tape of it.
    whos rafael? u mean JMM bro?

    Comment

    • Spiegelo
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jul 2008
      • 2096
      • 92
      • 366
      • 12,983

      #12
      Originally posted by TheGR8TESTOAT
      whos rafael? u mean JMM bro?
      I'm thinking he meant dan rafael or whatever his name is, the 'journalist'.

      Comment

      • MakeDamnSure
        Banned
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Aug 2007
        • 3283
        • 182
        • 237
        • 3,772

        #13
        Chris John UD12 Juan Manuel Marquez

        By Scott Mallon

        The only western journalist to attend the bout, Scott Mallon of Ring Magazine and The Sweet Science, scored the bout in favor of John.

        Borneo, Indonesia – Unbeaten Chris “Dragon” John (38-0, 20 KOs), Semarang, Indonesia, successfully defended his WBA featherweight title for the fifth time when he scored a surprising, unanimous decision over former champion Juan Manuel Marquez in Borneo, Indonesia. Marquez (44-3-1, 33 KOs) had taken the fight for a purse of only $31,250 in an effort to snare the WBA title only to come up short on the score cards, 116-112, 116-110 and 117-111.

        The Sweet Science saw it in favor of John at 116-110.

        Supremely confident of his abilities and with a desire to be champion once again, Marquez rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Winning the fight would not only make him a champion, but also give him a much needed bargaining chip, the WBA title. However, it was not to be.

        Marquez came out in round one to the roar of “Chris John, Chris John, Chris John” with absolutely no fanfare of his own. Both fighters started tentatively, trading jabs, feinting, and then moving out of range. The bout quickly settled into a tactical battle and in round two, Marquez landed the first meaningful blows of the contest, a stiff right to the head of the champion, followed by a right to the body.

        The former champion opened the fourth with a crisp left hook but John continued to steadfastly implement his strategy of jabbing, moving side-to-side and flurrying when the opportunity presented itself. John nailed Marquez with a crunching, counter-right uppercut midway through the round, his best punch of the fight.

        In the sixth round, both fighters traded unintentional low blows; no warnings were issued however and the chess match continued. The fight was close at this point and difficult to score.

        Marquez started round eight by landing another, unintentional low blow; this time receiving a warning from referee Guillermo Pérez Pineda. The champion was boxing smartly; jabbing and double jabbing, staying away from the power of Marquez. The corner of Marquez implored him to “get going, work, work,” but he was unable to slow John down.

        Marquez opened round ten with borderline punch to the thick waistband of John and the referee immediately jumped in to deduct a point. Just seconds later, Marquez landed yet another low blow and receiving another reprimand.

        In the eleventh, the desperate challenger came out quickly and bashed home a crushing uppercut to the jaw of the Indonesian, only to follow the punch with a blatant low blow. Referee Pineda stepped in once again and deducted a second point. Marquez remained composed and kept after John, landing a three-punch combination to end of the round.

        In the final stanza Marquez snuck in a crisp uppercut before tripping on the ring ropes. He pressed forward until John landed a huge right uppercut-counter to punctuate the victory. The Indonesian danced out of danger for the last sixty seconds of the fight and at the sound of the bell, his entire team jumped into the ring to hoist him upon their shoulders.

        When asked what he would do differently in a rematch, Marquez shrugged his shoulders, “There’s nothing to be done differently. We did what we were supposed to do; go after him, throw punches and counterpunch. He’s a great fighter but I don’t know what else we have to do to win.”

        Team Marquez spokesman Jaime Quintana vehemently disagreed with the scoring, “It was a close fight but I thought we took seven rounds. Seven to five. Chris John is a great fighter but he didn’t have to win like this. What other way can we win? Knock him down, kill him? Knock him out? Juan did what he was supposed to do.”

        ”We’ll go back to Mexico, relax for a few weeks and then he’ll go back into the gym. We’ve got some plans for Juan and Rafael in April and we’ll get more in to this next week.”

        The disgruntled Quintana stated a rematch is possible but only if held outside of Indonesia. Team Marquez intends to lodge a formal protest of the decision with the WBA.

        Comment

        • TheGR8TESTOAT
          Banned
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Nov 2006
          • 7022
          • 371
          • 573
          • 131,460

          #14
          Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
          Chris John UD12 Juan Manuel Marquez

          By Scott Mallon

          The only western journalist to attend the bout, Scott Mallon of Ring Magazine and The Sweet Science, scored the bout in favor of John.

          Borneo, Indonesia – Unbeaten Chris “Dragon” John (38-0, 20 KOs), Semarang, Indonesia, successfully defended his WBA featherweight title for the fifth time when he scored a surprising, unanimous decision over former champion Juan Manuel Marquez in Borneo, Indonesia. Marquez (44-3-1, 33 KOs) had taken the fight for a purse of only $31,250 in an effort to snare the WBA title only to come up short on the score cards, 116-112, 116-110 and 117-111.

          The Sweet Science saw it in favor of John at 116-110.

          Supremely confident of his abilities and with a desire to be champion once again, Marquez rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Winning the fight would not only make him a champion, but also give him a much needed bargaining chip, the WBA title. However, it was not to be.

          Marquez came out in round one to the roar of “Chris John, Chris John, Chris John” with absolutely no fanfare of his own. Both fighters started tentatively, trading jabs, feinting, and then moving out of range. The bout quickly settled into a tactical battle and in round two, Marquez landed the first meaningful blows of the contest, a stiff right to the head of the champion, followed by a right to the body.

          The former champion opened the fourth with a crisp left hook but John continued to steadfastly implement his strategy of jabbing, moving side-to-side and flurrying when the opportunity presented itself. John nailed Marquez with a crunching, counter-right uppercut midway through the round, his best punch of the fight.

          In the sixth round, both fighters traded unintentional low blows; no warnings were issued however and the chess match continued. The fight was close at this point and difficult to score.

          Marquez started round eight by landing another, unintentional low blow; this time receiving a warning from referee Guillermo Pérez Pineda. The champion was boxing smartly; jabbing and double jabbing, staying away from the power of Marquez. The corner of Marquez implored him to “get going, work, work,” but he was unable to slow John down.

          Marquez opened round ten with borderline punch to the thick waistband of John and the referee immediately jumped in to deduct a point. Just seconds later, Marquez landed yet another low blow and receiving another reprimand.

          In the eleventh, the desperate challenger came out quickly and bashed home a crushing uppercut to the jaw of the Indonesian, only to follow the punch with a blatant low blow. Referee Pineda stepped in once again and deducted a second point. Marquez remained composed and kept after John, landing a three-punch combination to end of the round.

          In the final stanza Marquez snuck in a crisp uppercut before tripping on the ring ropes. He pressed forward until John landed a huge right uppercut-counter to punctuate the victory. The Indonesian danced out of danger for the last sixty seconds of the fight and at the sound of the bell, his entire team jumped into the ring to hoist him upon their shoulders.

          When asked what he would do differently in a rematch, Marquez shrugged his shoulders, “There’s nothing to be done differently. We did what we were supposed to do; go after him, throw punches and counterpunch. He’s a great fighter but I don’t know what else we have to do to win.”

          Team Marquez spokesman Jaime Quintana vehemently disagreed with the scoring, “It was a close fight but I thought we took seven rounds. Seven to five. Chris John is a great fighter but he didn’t have to win like this. What other way can we win? Knock him down, kill him? Knock him out? Juan did what he was supposed to do.”

          ”We’ll go back to Mexico, relax for a few weeks and then he’ll go back into the gym. We’ve got some plans for Juan and Rafael in April and we’ll get more in to this next week.”

          The disgruntled Quintana stated a rematch is possible but only if held outside of Indonesia. Team Marquez intends to lodge a formal protest of the decision with the WBA.
          damn so those low blows really made the difference huh?

          Comment

          • TheGR8TESTOAT
            Banned
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Nov 2006
            • 7022
            • 371
            • 573
            • 131,460

            #15
            MakeDamnSure, thanks for that article GREEN KARMA bro!

            Comment

            • rorymac
              corymar
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Jul 2008
              • 6301
              • 308
              • 468
              • 15,476

              #16
              The ref penalised JMM unfairly, and it resulted in him losing the fight. JMM never punched below the belt, but was deducted 2 points for it.

              Comment

              • Geogoreya
                Contender
                Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                • Jul 2008
                • 117
                • 3
                • 0
                • 6,440

                #17
                I've seen the fight, cause i live in Indonesia, and i watch that fight live, i record it and after that i watch it again and scored it, i really think that 116 - 110 isn't fair i think it should be 114 - 112 after the deduction and the boring part is that nobody gets knockdown

                Comment

                • TheGR8TESTOAT
                  Banned
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 7022
                  • 371
                  • 573
                  • 131,460

                  #18
                  Originally posted by Geogoreya
                  I've seen the fight, cause i live in Indonesia, and i watch that fight live, i record it and after that i watch it again and scored it, i really think that 116 - 110 isn't fair i think it should be 114 - 112 after the deduction and the boring part is that nobody gets knockdown
                  how is it living in indonesia? i heard its beautiful but theres alot of drama there huh?

                  i met some indonesian honeys in LA and they were pretty freakin FINE!

                  Comment

                  • 2501
                    upinurgirlsguts
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 20211
                    • 902
                    • 49
                    • 28,237

                    #19
                    Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                    Chris John UD12 Juan Manuel Marquez

                    By Scott Mallon

                    The only western journalist to attend the bout, Scott Mallon of Ring Magazine and The Sweet Science, scored the bout in favor of John.

                    Borneo, Indonesia – Unbeaten Chris “Dragon” John (38-0, 20 KOs), Semarang, Indonesia, successfully defended his WBA featherweight title for the fifth time when he scored a surprising, unanimous decision over former champion Juan Manuel Marquez in Borneo, Indonesia. Marquez (44-3-1, 33 KOs) had taken the fight for a purse of only $31,250 in an effort to snare the WBA title only to come up short on the score cards, 116-112, 116-110 and 117-111.

                    The Sweet Science saw it in favor of John at 116-110.

                    Supremely confident of his abilities and with a desire to be champion once again, Marquez rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Winning the fight would not only make him a champion, but also give him a much needed bargaining chip, the WBA title. However, it was not to be.

                    Marquez came out in round one to the roar of “Chris John, Chris John, Chris John” with absolutely no fanfare of his own. Both fighters started tentatively, trading jabs, feinting, and then moving out of range. The bout quickly settled into a tactical battle and in round two, Marquez landed the first meaningful blows of the contest, a stiff right to the head of the champion, followed by a right to the body.

                    The former champion opened the fourth with a crisp left hook but John continued to steadfastly implement his strategy of jabbing, moving side-to-side and flurrying when the opportunity presented itself. John nailed Marquez with a crunching, counter-right uppercut midway through the round, his best punch of the fight.

                    In the sixth round, both fighters traded unintentional low blows; no warnings were issued however and the chess match continued. The fight was close at this point and difficult to score.

                    Marquez started round eight by landing another, unintentional low blow; this time receiving a warning from referee Guillermo Pérez Pineda. The champion was boxing smartly; jabbing and double jabbing, staying away from the power of Marquez. The corner of Marquez implored him to “get going, work, work,” but he was unable to slow John down.

                    Marquez opened round ten with borderline punch to the thick waistband of John and the referee immediately jumped in to deduct a point. Just seconds later, Marquez landed yet another low blow and receiving another reprimand.

                    In the eleventh, the desperate challenger came out quickly and bashed home a crushing uppercut to the jaw of the Indonesian, only to follow the punch with a blatant low blow. Referee Pineda stepped in once again and deducted a second point. Marquez remained composed and kept after John, landing a three-punch combination to end of the round.

                    In the final stanza Marquez snuck in a crisp uppercut before tripping on the ring ropes. He pressed forward until John landed a huge right uppercut-counter to punctuate the victory. The Indonesian danced out of danger for the last sixty seconds of the fight and at the sound of the bell, his entire team jumped into the ring to hoist him upon their shoulders.

                    When asked what he would do differently in a rematch, Marquez shrugged his shoulders, “There’s nothing to be done differently. We did what we were supposed to do; go after him, throw punches and counterpunch. He’s a great fighter but I don’t know what else we have to do to win.”

                    Team Marquez spokesman Jaime Quintana vehemently disagreed with the scoring, “It was a close fight but I thought we took seven rounds. Seven to five. Chris John is a great fighter but he didn’t have to win like this. What other way can we win? Knock him down, kill him? Knock him out? Juan did what he was supposed to do.”

                    ”We’ll go back to Mexico, relax for a few weeks and then he’ll go back into the gym. We’ve got some plans for Juan and Rafael in April and we’ll get more in to this next week.”

                    The disgruntled Quintana stated a rematch is possible but only if held outside of Indonesia. Team Marquez intends to lodge a formal protest of the decision with the WBA.
                    Oh, so NOW analyst and writer articles count right? But not when it comes to JMM and Pacquiao II? Should I post the countless articles where the MAJORITY of writers favored Marquez as the winner?

                    u dont want to play this game.

                    Comment

                    • TheGR8TESTOAT
                      Banned
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 7022
                      • 371
                      • 573
                      • 131,460

                      #20
                      Originally posted by 2501
                      Oh, so NOW analyst and writer articles count right? But not when it comes to JMM and Pacquiao II? Should I post the countless articles where the MAJORITY of writers favored Marquez as the winner?

                      u dont want to play this game.
                      true bro, but i think the major difference is the majority of the people here never seen Chris John actually fight before?

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP