Anyone actually seen the Chris John vs JMM fight?

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  • ferocity
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    #31
    Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
    That's the problem with hearsay.

    Did you also hear about the judge who publicly admitted that he f**ked up the scoring of the first Juanita - PAC fight(lol)
    The differnce is I saw, Marquez beat Pac both times and so did many observers who then took it too print.

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      #32
      Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
      That's the problem with hearsay.

      Did you also hear about the judge who publicly admitted that he f**ked up the scoring of the first Juanita - PAC fight(lol)
      Hey, you like you guys say, all that matter are the scorecards on that night. The score cards on that night pointed to a draw. Judges never make mistakes remember?

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        #33
        Originally posted by ferocity
        The differnce is I saw, Marquez beat Pac both times and so did many observers who then took it too print.
        The difference is, a judge f**ked up the scoring.


        Ferocity, in your lifetime, how often do hear a judge openly admit he f**ked up?

        So, technically, two judges saw that fight for PAC.

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          #34
          Originally posted by 2501
          Hey, you like you guys say, all that matter are the scorecards on that night. The score cards on that night pointed to a draw. Judges never make mistakes remember?
          Yeah, but a rare thing happened, and I mean a very rare thing happened. A judge openly admitted he f**ked up, and that's also a fact!

          Obviously those scores skewed, because a judge who tallied it, admitted it was incorrect.

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            #35
            Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
            Yeah, but a rare thing happened, and I mean a very rare thing happened. A judge openly admitted he f**ked up, and that's also a fact!

            Obviously those scores skewed, because a judge who tallied it, admitted it was incorrect.
            It doesnt matter according to you guys. all that matters is the scorecards that night, that moment. And they read A DRAW.

            This is your logic my friend, not mine. Live with it. Stop being so ****en bias.

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              #36
              Originally posted by TheGR8TESTOAT
              how is it living in indonesia? i heard its beautiful but theres alot of drama there huh?

              i met some indonesian honeys in LA and they were pretty freakin FINE!
              Believe me Indonesian women are very FINE!

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                #37
                Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
                Yeah, but a rare thing happened, and I mean a very rare thing happened. A judge openly admitted he f**ked up, and that's also a fact!

                Obviously those scores skewed, because a judge who tallied it, admitted it was incorrect.
                i would say the judge who gave 7 rounds to pacquio ****ed up a lot more cause he was obviously paid off.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Geogoreya
                  Believe me Indonesian women are very FINE!
                  yeah the ones i met had some big asss titiez yo hhahaa ME LIKEY!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ferocity
                    I scored the fight for Marquez. I havn't seen the fight in a while, but it was clear that Marquez won. And that was before Marquez changed his style. I wouldn't mind to see Marquez v. John again after the Diaz fight. But as much as i'd like to see that fight, Im rooting for Rocky to beat John.
                    JMM don't want a piece of Chris John... I remember how JMM camp let down the offer to have the rematch after JMM got schooled by John...

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                      #40


                      Here a report from the site after he got hold of the tape:

                      Juan Manuel Marquez vs Chris John - Round by Round analysis
                      March 30th, 2006 by Kevin Perry in Boxing News

                      By Kevin Perry

                      I finally got to see the fight and it was a pretty decent little scrap. Many people have written off Marquez for losing this fight, but in fact I don’t feel it tarnishes his image at all. Well that’s if you’ve seen the fight. Marquez still has the ability to beat any of the top featherweights out there, and showed in this fight that he can be quite entertaining to watch. Chris John is also a fighter that really should be looked at as a fighter with some decent skills, and natural ability. Losing to John is no disappointment. Most American fans have not seen this fight and only heard reports, some of those were reports from media who had not even seen the fight and thus were reporting on a press release. Here I’ll give the real scoop. Punch by punch. Here’s my analysis of what happened in Indonesia on March 4th 2006 between Juan Manuel Marquez and WBA Featherweight champion Chris John.

                      Round 1
                      Big left by John. Marquez comes right back. He throws a few more good combinations. John later on lands a solid right that gets the crowd involved.Marquez however seems to be in control.
                      10-9 Marquez

                      Round 2
                      Marquez wobbles John early in the round. He continues to throw fluid combinations. Huge clean right hand by Marquez. Then he follows up with a left hook. John seems confused as Marquez dominates most of the action so far. Marquez is keeping him at bay with a stiff solid jab.
                      10-9 Marquez

                      Round 3
                      John comes out early throwing hard jabs. He then lands a hard right on the chin. Marquez is throwing a lot but missing in this round. He is trying to measure the target. He is still throwing solid combinations. Marquez throws a low blow and is warned. John lands a good counter right hand.
                      10-9 John

                      Round 4
                      Both guys are landing the jab. Marquez is still the busier guy throwing more combinations. John is trying to counter and landing some solid uppercuts. He then lands a clean right hand. Marquez comes back with a quick uppercut. Marquez coninues to go to the body. Big left hook by John at the end of the round.
                      10-9 John

                      Round 5
                      Good jab by John as he’s now getting off first. Marquez counters him well with the right. Great combination then a clean right by Marquez. He’s going to the body more. John comes back with am left hook, and Marquez counters with two left hooks of his own. Things are heating up and Marquez is landing clean right hands towards the end of the round.
                      10-9 Marquez

                      Round 6
                      John once again starts the round throwing a solid jab. He still however is not throwing alot of punches in the fight so far. Marquez appears to be busier. Marquez lands big hook, John follows up with some low blows. Marquez throws one at the belt and is warned. John lands a combination. He is trying to outbox Marquez, and keeps on his toes. Marquez is warned again for low blows at the end of the round.
                      10-9 John


                      Round 7
                      Marquez starts out using the jab effectively and later sets up a counter right. They begin to exchange, but both guys get in shots. Good right by John that gets the crowd involved, but it was a grazing punch. Marquez does some more damage with hard body blows. Marquez appears to be the agressor, and is backing John up. Marquez continues to land solid blows to the body and head.
                      10-9 Marquez

                      Round 8
                      John starts the round with a nice counter. This is more of a technical fight than a brawl, but there has been good action so far from both guys. Marquez is warned again, but it was a borderline low blow. Johns trunks appear to be a little high. Big left hook then a solid right cross by Marquez. He appars to be landing the harder more telling blows throughout the fight. A solid right by John followed by a hookto the head gets Marquez’s respect for a moment. Marquez stays busy and lands a nice uppercut to the chest at the end of the round.
                      10-9 Marquez

                      Round 9
                      Marquez stays busy throwing ombinations and continues to land the cleaner blows. Good right by John as Marquez comes inside. More body shots for Juan and John continues to back up. Good right by John again, but he continues to appear on the defensive. Two more borderline low blows for Marquez, but the referee doesn’t see them.
                      10-9 Marquez

                      Round 10
                      Both guys begin landing good punches. Marquez lands on the belt and is deducted a point. Later, Marquez lands another low blow. They don’t seem to be doing a lot of damage and they aren’t intentional, but they are costly. Good right by John, and towards the end of the round on Marquez gets hit by a left.
                      10-8 John

                      Round 11
                      low blow by John. The referee doesn’t warn him. Another low blow by Marquez and he loses another point. John responds later with some good counters as Marquez seems more and more desperate after losing points from the low blows. Still pressing forward Marquez gets hit by a hard right from John. Big right and a left at the end of the round by John.
                      10-8 John

                      Round 12
                      Marquez starts the round landing twp solid rights. They then exchange, but John gets the better of it. Marquez gets in a left, John gets in a right. Marquez gets in some nice punches throughout the round, but gets outboxed by John.
                      10-9 John

                      Kevin’s Scorecard
                      112-114 Chris John

                      The two point deductions lost the fight for Marquez, otherwise in my opinion the fight should have been a draw.

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