Victor Ortiz' next opponent will most likely be Vivian Harris

[SAN D13GO VILLAN]

I was thinking it was going to be Casamayor since the rumor says it's a former champ and he has the same promoter.

[Fox McCloud]

I was thinking it was going to be Casamayor since the rumor says it's a former champ and he has the same promoter.

That was another name Warp and I came up with (well, he did, not me).

I had no idea that Casamayor was planning on moving up to 140. He is a former champ though... I don't think the former champ part specified former 140 champ.

[SAN D13GO VILLAN]

That was another name Warp and I came up with (well, he did, not me).

I had no idea that Casamayor was planning on moving up to 140. He is a former champ though... I don't think the former champ part specified former 140 champ.

Remember he was talking about coming up to 140 to fight Hatton before he lost to Marquez.

[Tha_Greatest]

That was another name Warp and I came up with (well, he did, not me).

I had no idea that Casamayor was planning on moving up to 140. He is a former champ though... I don't think the former champ part specified former 140 champ.

who do you think is more shot up to hell, zab or casamayor cause even at 140, i still think of casamayor as a big threat, while i doubt zabby can ever do anything anymore, at any weight,


i think even raheem is a bigger threat than judah but judah looks better on a resume(we know what journeyman to to our boy , a shot up morales)

[Fox McCloud]

who do you think is more shot up to hell, zab or casamayor cause even at 140, i still think of casamayor as a big threat, while i doubt zabby can ever do anything anymore, at any weight,


i think even raheem is a bigger threat than judah but judah looks better on a resume(we know what journeyman to to our boy , a shot up morales)

Yeah, **** Zahir Raheem... what his average ass did to our Morales breaks my heart.

I'd say Zab is better at 140. He's not very good, but... my god, Casamayor got shut out against Santa Cruz, and was losing to an awful fighter in Katsidis, so...

Plus, Casamayor would be moving up, which would likely slow him down and take away even more of his power.

Casamayor at 140 would not be that big of a threat IMO.

Plus, it seems like the transition from LW to LWW is one of the hardest in boxing for some strange reason. Not a lot of fighters stay the same when they make that 5 pound jump.

[americanme]

Yeah, **** Zahir Raheem... what his average ass did to our Morales breaks my heart.

I'd say Zab is better at 140. He's not very good, but... my god, Casamayor got shut out against Santa Cruz, and was losing to an awful fighter in Katsidis, so...

Plus, Casamayor would be moving up, which would likely slow him down and take away even more of his power.

Casamayor at 140 would not be that big of a threat IMO.

Plus, it seems like the transition from LW to LWW is one of the hardest in boxing for some strange reason. Not a lot of fighters stay the same when they make that 5 pound jump.

Marlon Starling.......

[Fox McCloud]

Marlon Starling.......

Mayweather
De La Hoya

There's been a lot.

I'm just saying, that jump, more than any other jump (except maybe LHW to CW) has stalled a lot of fighters' progress and greatness IMO.

[americanme]

Mayweather
De La Hoya

There's been a lot.

I'm just saying, that jump, more than any other jump (except maybe LHW to CW) has stalled a lot of fighters' progress and greatness IMO.

Freddie Roach trained Marlon. he Ko'd undefeated and gold medal olympian Mark Breland for his wba ww championship...and beat him again in the rematch.

[Tha_Greatest]

Yeah, **** Zahir Raheem... what his average ass did to our Morales breaks my heart.

I'd say Zab is better at 140. He's not very good, but... my god, Casamayor got shut out against Santa Cruz, and was losing to an awful fighter in Katsidis, so...

Plus, Casamayor would be moving up, which would likely slow him down and take away even more of his power.

Casamayor at 140 would not be that big of a threat IMO.

Plus, it seems like the transition from LW to LWW is one of the hardest in boxing for some strange reason. Not a lot of fighters stay the same when they make that 5 pound jump.

how bout breidis prescott at 140, hopefully that can happen