Victor Ortiz' next opponent will most likely be Vivian Harris

[El Chicano]

the point is that ortiz is just a prospect and not on hatton's radar

No one said he IS on Hatton's radar (right now). You seem to be easily confused. Victor's probably gonna fight Vivian next. A couple of us suggested that a fight with Zab would be a good follow up then a fight with Bradley. Ricky will surely still be fighting then. A fight with Victor at that point would not be so far fetched especially after Pac Knocks him TFO. They are both with Golden Boy. Ricky ain't going no where. He just started with Oscar. He'll be around for a couple more years.

[Tha_Greatest]

the point is that ortiz is just a prospect and not on hatton's radar

based on what, what fights make him look like a developing ighter, hes pretty much ready from all the fights ive seen, or you think in 3 years from now, he deserves a shot at ricky

[KJB]

based on what, what fights make him look like a developing ighter, hes pretty much ready from all the fights ive seen, or you think in 3 years from now, he deserves a shot at ricky

You cant tell if the guys hasnt been in there with anyone decent. I feel what you mean about he is ready to try, but you dont go straight to the Ricky Hattons, you have to pull at least one or two elite level wins to start talking like that.
Its like Bradley, Bradley went to Junior Witter's home turf and took his belt. Now he can start looking at all the elites. Thats what Ortiz has to do.

[Fox McCloud]

Apparently the rumor is that Ortiz is fighting a former world champ... I was talking to Warp and here are some of the names we came up with:

Harris (probably the frontrunner at this point)
N'dou (although he is probably a WW at this point, and not coming down)
Rees (Just... not very good)
M'Baye (2 losses in a row, not a bad fighter to step up against)
Torres (too dangerous probably)
Judah (probably too big of a draw for Harris to get)
Malignaggi (since he is at the end of his career, not likely, possibly too dangerous too)

I would guess Harris, Rees or M'Baye out of all of those names.

[hammerhiem]

harris got stopped by witter then got floored hard by a journeyman twice in his last fight. ortiz is taking the calzaghe route and fighting a name after he fell from the top. kinda like calzaghe fighting brewer right after echols ko'd him instead of fighting echols. even then calzaghe struggled mightily. maybe this was after he lost his murderous "punching power" or maybe he was "injured" so brewer was "lucky" to survive.

He's a prospect, prospects are SUPPOSED to fight increasingly better Journeymen untill they becomce contenders.

I'm pretty sure Bhop hasn't "fallen from the top" just yet either.

[Southpaw16BF]

If True. Good opponet for Ortiz. Harris is a well seasoned vetran who fought some of the best of his weight , he's a former world champ. Yes he is probaly past his prime, but in his last 5 fights he's won 4 and that lost was a world title fight so should be a good step up for Victor, and i expect a tko victory from him to add two former world champions on his resume.

[El Chicano]

You cant tell if the guys hasnt been in there with anyone decent. I feel what you mean about he is ready to try, but you dont go straight to the Ricky Hattons, you have to pull at least one or two elite level wins to start talking like that.
Its like Bradley, Bradley went to Junior Witter's home turf and took his belt. Now he can start looking at all the elites. Thats what Ortiz has to do.

And that's exactly what we're talking about. We're mentioning Harris, Judah and Bradley before a Hatton matchup. That would put a fight with Hatton at sometime late next year. Hatton ain't even all that, ****. You'll see when Manny knocks that fool out quicker than Gayweather did.

[Pullcounter]

No one said he IS on Hatton's radar (right now). You seem to be easily confused. Victor's probably gonna fight Vivian next. A couple of us suggested that a fight with Zab would be a good follow up then a fight with Bradley. Ricky will surely still be fighting then. A fight with Victor at that point would not be so far fetched especially after Pac Knocks him TFO. They are both with Golden Boy. Ricky ain't going no where. He just started with Oscar. He'll be around for a couple more years.

as long as you understand that ortiz ain't going to fight hatton soon.

[Pullcounter]

based on what, what fights make him look like a developing ighter, hes pretty much ready from all the fights ive seen, or you think in 3 years from now, he deserves a shot at ricky

i aint saying he's not ready, he just needs to fight a gatekeeper and then grab a championship and then defend it atleast once, preferably more than twice.

[Tha_Greatest]

i aint saying he's not ready, he just needs to fight a gatekeeper and then grab a championship and then defend it atleast once, preferably more than twice.

carlos maussa is a former champ who became like a gatekeeper, he got blasted easily by victor. vivian lost to carlos and we all know thats most likely his next fight. zabdiel , who me and puas keep implying should be after vivian would be a perfect set up match for a belt. zab at 140 is a strong fighter, , maybe?? i would think so


nobody really understands your opinion cause i keep saying my road to rickey and you mustve read it, it consisted of very very good challengers/gatekeepers/former champs and you then say things like:


i aint saying he's not ready, he just needs to fight a gatekeeper


after you say what you said, were back to saying he needs to fight a gatekeeper,