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  • #51
    Originally posted by F-R-K-O View Post
    I read an article with both Reid and Frank Warren's comments in it only two or three days ago, and Reid certainly did turn down a rematch. He can claim he wasn't offered enough money, whatever, but why is he suddenly entitled to more money than he accepted in the first place? He'd just lost a fight, FFS. He was worth LESS money after that.

    Warren said Reid is a cheeky bastard and that he actually lost money on the Calzaghe-Reid promotion, and there's no way he was gonna lose even more money by offering Reid an even bigger purse than he deserved.

    Reid should have took it, if he was so confident that he'd won. Which I don't think he was, because he admitted he didn't feel he'd won right after the fight, but later started telling the press how Calzaghe was running from him and he was robbed.

    Reid is lucky he fought an injured Calzaghe. In a rematch against an 100% fit Calzaghe, I believe he would have been beaten comprehensively, just as he was against Lacy and Froch. Don't get me wrong, Reid was a good fighter back in the day and he could certainly ****, but he'd need more in his arsenal than a right hand to beat him. He hit Joe with bombs all night, but it simply wasn't enough to win. A rematch would prove nothing.
    Once again, great post!

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    • #52
      Originally posted by megadude View Post
      , he fought 40 odd aged fighters and not only that half of his opponents were out of shape bums
      See now comments like that make me think you're either lying about watching his fights or so biased that your views aren't worth the webspace they are taking up.

      taking into account most fighters are considered prime at 25-30

      Eubank 31
      Sobot 26
      Ferreyra 38 - Old.
      Reid 28
      Thornberry 31
      Starie 26
      Skeika 23
      Woodhall 32
      Veit 28 + 32.
      McIntyre 26
      Brewer 33
      Jimenez 32
      Pudwell 31
      Mitchell 30
      Mkrtchian 28
      Salem 36 - Old
      Arisha 35 - Old
      Lacy 28
      Bika 26
      Lolfredo jnr 27
      Kessler 28
      Bhop 43 - Old
      Jones 39 Old.

      Argue all you like about the quality of the people he fought but when you start flat out lying you lose credibility.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
        See now comments like that make me think you're either lying about watching his fights or so biased that your views aren't worth the webspace they are taking up.

        taking into account most fighters are considered prime at 25-30

        Eubank 31
        Sobot 26
        Ferreyra 38 - Old.
        Reid 28
        Thornberry 31
        Starie 26
        Skeika 23
        Woodhall 32
        Veit 28 + 32.
        McIntyre 26
        Brewer 33
        Jimenez 32
        Pudwell 31
        Mitchell 30
        Mkrtchian 28
        Salem 36 - Old
        Arisha 35 - Old
        Lacy 28
        Bika 26
        Lolfredo jnr 27
        Kessler 28
        Bhop 43 - Old
        Jones 39 Old.

        Argue all you like about the quality of the people he fought but when you start flat out lying you lose credibility.
        It depends,sometimes fighters age well before their numbers suggest.

        You also only have 23 fighters listed when Calzaghe has faced 46. Since you listed Pudwell you might as well list them all.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Enemy/Friend View Post
          It depends,sometimes fighters age well before their numbers suggest.

          You also only have 23 fighters listed when Calzaghe has faced 46. Since you listed Pudwell you might as well list them all.
          Thats the 23 from when he picked up a title, is anyone really interested in who he fought as a kid and proscpect? I mean seriously every fighter fights experianced guys as a prospect to learn thats kind of the point.

          I agree some age sooner like Eubank but some age slower like BHop, are you seriously suggesting that that list makes you think he only fought old guys? Putting quality aside which I agree you can pick apart his record for, purely on age you can't critise him.
          Last edited by hammerhiem; 01-09-2009, 08:53 AM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
            Thats the 23 from when he picked up a title, is anyone really interested in who he fought as a kid and proscpect? I mean seriously every fighter fights experianced guys as a prospect to learn thats kind of the point.
            I know but the guys he fought coming up couldn't be any worse then Pudwell

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Enemy/Friend View Post
              I know but the guys he fought coming up couldn't be any worse then Pudwell
              Be honest is Merqui Sosa any better?

              Every fighter has a absolute shocker on their resume, the problem with Calzaghe is he has too many mid standard fighters, the guys who get lots of shots at belt but always fall short of top level, the Veit's and Harding's of the world.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
                Be honest is Merqui Sosa any better?

                Every fighter has a absolute shocker on their resume, the problem with Calzaghe is he has too many mid standard fighters, the guys who get lots of shots at belt but always fall short of top level, the Veit's and Harding's of the world.
                Merqui Sosa IS better. Do you just pick names out of a hat? How the **** do you compare Mario Veit to Eric Harding? Tell the truth, you know absolutely **** about Harding.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
                  Be honest is Merqui Sosa any better?

                  Every fighter has a absolute shocker on their resume, the problem with Calzaghe is he has too many mid standard fighters, the guys who get lots of shots at belt but always fall short of top level, the Veit's and Harding's of the world.
                  I joke about Calzaghe but any fan of boxing should appreciate Joe and what he brings to the ring. His fortitude allows him to come back after being knocked down many times and that is rare for many fighters. To remain undefeated for the span of twenty fights can be difficult never mind Forty-Six. Sure his resume isn't outstanding but he has enough names to make him the best ever at super middleweight and to secure a nice place on the P4P charts.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by SHB View Post
                    I think you need to buy a dictionary and read the definitions of Fact and Opinion.
                    Now why would I buy a dictionary when I could use google. If you don't agree with what I said, highlight which part and we could discuss it objectively. It's much better than hurling insults over the internet which later backfire on you.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Merqui Sosa IS better. Do you just pick names out of a hat? How the **** do you compare Mario Veit to Eric Harding? Tell the truth, you know absolutely **** about Harding.
                      of course he fought for soooo many titles and beat so many champions.

                      Oh wait no he didn't he fought for one and lost, at SMW which as people like keep telling us was extremely weak.

                      Viet is a nearly man who's never won a title, hardling is a nearly man who has never won a title.

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