Why Margarito is bad for Mayweather!

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  • Pullcounter
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    #91
    Originally posted by cruzan mario
    Sounds like ur saying Mayweather is that much better than Clottey,but Clottey would give Mayweather fits as well!!
    clottey idolizes floyd.

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    • Johnny Awesome
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      #92
      Money Mayweather would handle Margarito pretty handily. Floyd is just so smooth in the ring that he just makes even the best look ******.

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      • americanme
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        #93
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        did you know floyd had broken hands in the first fight?

        the second fight wasn't even close.
        he didnt have broken hands in the first fight.. lol

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #94
          I would have to favor Floyd if they fought. If you think about it this fight would be bigger now then ever in the past (even bigger if Margarito gets through his first half schedule with 2 wins).

          Margarito is not a great technical pressure fighter (follows instead of cutting off the ring, throws wild looping shots and really have only seen him have 1 plan in the ring), that said Margarito is relentless and will throw a lot of shots. Margarito is a big strong guy but he is not a 1 punch guy, if he throws 120 punches around and lands at or worse the statistical average for a Mayweather opponent I do not really think he could break down Mayweather, if he lands at a significantly higher % then an average Mayweather opponent he has a good shot, I just fail to see how he would accomplish that feat.

          Mayweather likes to lay on the ropes, and this could work in Margarito favor, even if he only lands slightly more then average while Floyd lays on the ropes it is still a plus. Also since Floyd likes to pick and choose his spots as opposed to fighting all the time, so if the fight is competitive (as opposed to being a boxing lesson) I could see how judges could give the fight to Margarito based on activity considering the lack of damage that might be done to both fighters.

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          • Bushbaby
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            #95
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            I would have to favor Floyd if they fought. If you think about it this fight would be bigger now then ever in the past (even bigger if Margarito gets through his first half schedule with 2 wins).

            Margarito is not a great technical pressure fighter (follows instead of cutting off the ring, throws wild looping shots and really have only seen him have 1 plan in the ring), that said Margarito is relentless and will throw a lot of shots. Margarito is a big strong guy but he is not a 1 punch guy, if he throws 120 punches around and lands at or worse the statistical average for a Mayweather opponent I do not really think he could break down Mayweather, if he lands at a significantly higher % then an average Mayweather opponent he has a good shot, I just fail to see how he would accomplish that feat.

            Mayweather likes to lay on the ropes, and this could work in Margarito favor, even if he only lands slightly more then average while Floyd lays on the ropes it is still a plus. Also since Floyd likes to pick and choose his spots as opposed to fighting all the time, so if the fight is competitive (as opposed to being a boxing lesson) I could see how judges could give the fight to Margarito based on activity considering the lack of damage that might be done to both fighters.
            I agree to an extent,but Mayweather has fought no one like Margarito and I do believe Margarito is the best pressure fighter at 147,period.Mayweathers average opponents are no where near as effective a pressure fighter as Margarito,DLH pressure,Ricky Hatton pressure,does not compare to Margarito pressure,believe me!!

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            • El Dominicano
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              #96
              Margarito = Too slow, to open to counters
              Mayweather = Too good defensive, accurate, fast to lose to Margarito

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                #97
                Originally posted by El Dominicano
                Margarito = Too slow, to open to counters
                Mayweather = Too good defensive, accurate, fast to lose to Margarito
                You forgot
                Margarito=ready and willing to try it anytime.
                Mayweather= Too scared to ever prove it.

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by cruzan mario
                  I agree to an extent,but Mayweather has fought no one like Margarito and I do believe Margarito is the best pressure fighter at 147,period.Mayweathers average opponents are no where near as effective a pressure fighter as Margarito,DLH pressure,Ricky Hatton pressure,does not compare to Margarito pressure,believe me!!
                  Well I can say the same about Margarito, he has never fought (much less defeated) someone like Mayweather.

                  They all have differerent pressure (although Oscar is a boxer not a pressure fighter), Hatton is actually a better pressure fighter in cutting off the ring and making you fight, while Margarito is tougher and more relentless. Every fight I always hear about pressure being the way to defeat Mayweather, but I have never looked at it like that (it has also yet to work). I think a fighter needs to be smart and make Floyd fight in a way he is uncomfortable (now I guess pressure fighting would work for this, but I do not think that is the only thing you can bring to the dance and really have a good chance of winning against Floyd), to do this I think you need some verstility to your game, and with Margarito I do not see that.

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                  • Bhopreign
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    Well I can say the same about Margarito, he has never fought (much less defeated) someone like Mayweather.

                    They all have differerent pressure (although Oscar is a boxer not a pressure fighter), Hatton is actually a better pressure fighter in cutting off the ring and making you fight, while Margarito is tougher and more relentless. Every fight I always hear about pressure being the way to defeat Mayweather, but I have never looked at it like that (it has also yet to work). I think a fighter needs to be smart and make Floyd fight in a way he is uncomfortable (now I guess pressure fighting would work for this, but I do not think that is the only thing you can bring to the dance and really have a good chance of winning against Floyd), to do this I think you need some verstility to your game, and with Margarito I do not see that.
                    Why do people not bring up Castillo, he is a better and smarter fighter than them all. He actually comes in smart, hands up to catch the jab all while moving his head.

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                    • Spacey1991
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                      Thats about 99% of boxing fans.


                      The other 1% are Floyd stans who are afraid to see him display his taletns against rugged competition.

                      See the post above yours about boxing not being a toughman competition.
                      They fail to see the actual skills of other fighters.

                      To be honest... I think you biased against Mayweather.

                      I never said it wouldn't be a tough fight for Mayweather... Marg is a very tough fighter, all I am saying is that I think he would simply outbox Marg and win on points. (from when you quoted my comment before).

                      But, we both have our opinions... I am not saying yours is wrong, and I am not saying mine is wrong.

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