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  • Spacey1991
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    #41
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    That list is awful
    Lol! putting it that bluntly and briefly, what do you think is awful about it..? Probably starting with the point that De La Hoya is ****ing 39th... sorry but it is shocking.

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    • HappyBoxingFan
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      #42
      Originally posted by rorymac
      Good, but remove Barney Ross and put in Calzaghe or Hatton.
      Calzaghe top 50 all time... LOL. Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones are both above Calzaghe.

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      • HappyBoxingFan
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        #43
        Originally posted by hammerhiem
        Calzaghe and Hatton are not top 50 all time

        Lennox Lewis should be top 50 IMHO and SRLeonard is very low all things considered, i have him higher then Duran.

        De La Hoya is not top 50 ATG based on wins either, so unless you have him in on money making....
        I am directly in line with this.

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        • Ishy Aytan
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          #44
          Originally posted by hammerhiem
          I'm not knocking Pacman but i'm not sure how you justify his being linear is better than Floyds 5 weights.

          I'm not sure how you justify his 4 linear either.

          Morales is great and it's an awesomw win but he's a Superbantum not a Super feather where pacman fought him, JMM is a great if close win but he's a feather not a superfeather.

          I agree he should be on the list but Hatton will be the only second great win he will have at the oppositions best weight. and to be honest if you're being picky you could say barerra wasn't at his best weight either.

          I don't know why i'm bothering and i'm sure people will say i'm being a hater but I just find the whole linear champ thing total BS especially when you will have Pacman a natural SFW as the linear LWW champ even though he will probably never fight at the weight again.
          Because you dont understand how prestigious holding Linear titles is... It seperates the alphabet champs such as guys like Cintron to the true welterweight champs like Mayweather (before he retired). It is really what the Ring base their rankings on.

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          • craftynoob08
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            #45
            if were talkin about boxing skills

            mayweather jr is teh best of em all.

            mayweather is an ATG too but hes not the greatest.

            for me ali is the greatest.

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            • hammerhiem
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              #46
              Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
              Because you dont understand how prestigious holding Linear titles is... It seperates the alphabet champs such as guys like Cintron to the true welterweight champs like Mayweather (before he retired). It is really what the Ring base their rankings on.
              Some Alphabet title holders are better than Linear champs. Linear champ supposes that all great fighters lose to a great fighter in the end and thats just not the way it works.

              Rahman was a linear champ, because he got 1 flukey punch in on a great fighter.

              If you look at the Middleweights there are some shocking Linear titleholders.

              Hagler - Leonard - Norris - Brown - Norris - Santana - Norris - Mullins - Castillejo - De La Hoya - Mosley - Wright.

              I think we can both agree that beating Hopkins or RJJ would have been worth twice beating some of those names at MW.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #47
                Originally posted by Spacey1991
                Lol! putting it that bluntly and briefly, what do you think is awful about it..? Probably starting with the point that De La Hoya is ****ing 39th... sorry but it is shocking.
                That's for starters. I have no respect for any list that puts Oscar De La Hoya higher than Barrera, Whitaker & Jones. Just ridiculous, especially the latter two.

                But...what do you expect? It's ESPN!!!! It's like asking a mainstream, casual fan to draw up a list.

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                • RL_GMA
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                  #48
                  Duran at 6? and over Leonard?

                  Not a BAD list, but kinda out of place and missing a few guys

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                  • S.G.
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                    #49
                    i would rearrange it quite a bit, but it's a better list than a lot of them

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                    • andrewcuff
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                      #50
                      I've seen this list before. It always cracks me up when I see De La Hoya higher than Whitaker, Arguello, Monzon and Hopkins.

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