Top 50 All Time Greats!!

**rorymac** · 01-08-2009, 04:32 AM

Good, but remove Barney Ross and put in Calzaghe or Hatton.

**liam_48@msn.com** · 01-08-2009, 04:35 AM

Remove Barney ross!! for hatton? the guy who was taken to school and was given a boxing clinic by floyd deserves to be a top 50 all time great LMAO.

**hammerhiem** · 01-08-2009, 04:39 AM

Calzaghe and Hatton are not top 50 all time

Lennox Lewis should be top 50 IMHO and SRLeonard is very low all things considered, i have him higher then Duran.

De La Hoya is not top 50 ATG based on wins either, so unless you have him in on money making....

**Spacey1991** · 01-08-2009, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by rorymac

Good, but remove Barney Ross and put in Calzaghe or Hatton.

I am not removing or adding anyone to the list, it is 'ESPN's Top 50 All Time Greats'... not 'Spacey1991's top 50 All Time Greats'.

I just put it up here so people can discuss who they think should be in there, who shouldn't be in there... who should be ranked higher, and who should be ranked lower.

But if you think Calzaghe and Hatton deserves to be up there and Barney Ross shouldn't, then that's cool... just your opinion!

**Spacey1991** · 01-08-2009, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by hammerhiem

Calzaghe and Hatton are not top 50 all time

Lennox Lewis should be top 50 IMHO and SRLeonard is very low all things considered, i have him higher then Duran.

De La Hoya is not top 50 ATG based on wins either, so unless you have him in on money making....

Yeah, I thought he was put a bit too high aswell.

**Ch@mpBox@PR** · 01-08-2009, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by Spacey1991

Well, I was pretty bored and thought I would search 'boxing hall of fame' into Google to find the top 10+ all time greats list... I found this list on a website claiming it was the ESPN top 50 list;

50. Mike Tyson
49. Erik Morales
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.(undefeated)
47. Bernard Hopkins
46. Roy Jones Jr.
45. Carlos Monzon
44. Pernell Whitaker
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
42. Alexis Arguello
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
40. Evander Holyfield
39. Oscar De La Hoya
38. Larry Holmes
37. Thomas Hearns
36. Eder Jofre
35. Marvin Hagler
34. Emile Griffith
33. Ruben Olivares
32. Jose Napoles
31. Billy Conn
30. Terry McGovern
29. Sandy Saddler
28. Jake LaMotta
27. Ezzard Charles
26. Joe Frazier
25. Marcel Cerdan
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
23. Jimmy McLarnin
22. Barney Ross
21. Tony Canzoneri
20. George Foreman
19. Stanley Ketchel
18. Archie Moore
17. Mickey Walker
16. Gene Tunney
15. Jimmy Wilde
14. Rocky Marciano (only undefeated heavyweight)
13. Harry Greb
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
11. Joe Gans
10. Sam Langford
9. Jack Dempsey
8. Jack Johnson
7. Benny Leonard
6. Roberto Duran
5. Willie Pep
4. Joe Louis
3. Henry Armstrong
2. Muhammad Ali
1. Sugar Ray Robinson

I was just wandering if everyone agrees with the list, and if anybody thinks some people should be higher or lower in the list, or not in it at all? Discuss.

By the way as a Mayweather fan, I didn't put "(undefeated)" in there, and neither the "(only undefeated heavyweight)" on Marciano... I just pasted it in so there is nothing biased on my part.

Anyway I would like your opinions, so... discuss!!

Wheres Finito Lopez, Wilfredo Gomes, Salvador Sanches, Trinidad. What the **** is Oscar doing infront of B-Hop.

**Spacey1991** · 01-08-2009, 04:43 AM

I just got this from the ESPN website;

Although few would question that Sugar Ray Robinson should sit at the very top, or that Muhammad Ali, Henry Armstrong and Joe Louis should be at the head of the chasing pack, cases can be made for and against the positioning, inclusion or omission of a good many others. You want to argue that Tony Canzoneri is ranked too high or that Roy Jones Jr. doesn't belong on the list? Go ahead. Chances are your arguments in favor of your rankings are just as good as my arguments in favor of mine.

This list is not an all-time, mythical pound-for-pound ranking. It is not trying to establish who would beat whom if everyone were all the same weight. After all, Roberto Duran lost two of three to Sugar Ray Leonard, but is ranked six places ahead of him. Sandy Saddler beat Willie Pep in three of four bouts, but is at No. 29, while Pep enjoys the stratospheric ranking of No. 5. Alexis Arguello is on the list; Aaron Pryor, a terrific fighter in his own right who beat Arguello twice, doesn't make it.

If you can be arsed to read it!

**K-Nan** · 01-08-2009, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR

Wheres Finito Lopez, Wilfredo Gomes, Salvador Sanches, Trinidad. What the **** is Oscar doing infront of B-Hop.

Lol... Oscar ahead of Pernell Whittaker?

The list actually isn't that bad. I just can't get over ODLH being at 39.

**Spacey1991** · 01-08-2009, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR

Wheres Finito Lopez, Wilfredo Gomes, Salvador Sanches, Trinidad. What the **** is Oscar doing infront of B-Hop.

Oscar is put way too high IMO!

Top 50 All Time Greats!!