Andre Berto and Tim Bradley

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  • PR Boxer
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    #21
    Originally posted by MJ406
    In a division where Malignaggi is a top 5 fighter, it shows you how shallow 140 is. I mean 140 is pretty wide open despite having one dominant fighter (Ricky Hatton)

    but Bradley is making up for the Cherry opponent selection (1st title defense not terrible) with taking on Holt for his second title defense. and Bradley did aggressively pursue that fight .... a title unification AND taking on a top 140 pounder IMO you can't get much better then that. (outside of fighting Hatton of course)

    where Welterweight, there's Margarito looking like the man right now, but even he has a loss to Williams. (who lost to Quintana, but avenged that etc)

    well even Berto vs Collazo .. I'd say Luis is def top 12, but top 10 might be bit outta Collazo's reach

    Mosley dominated him, Margarito and Cotto I would put ahead of Luis and I have to throw in Clottey and Williams. hey with Floyd's retirement and Zab looking at 140

    maybe Collazo is top 10, based on the above but the losses to Mosley + Hatton hurt his standing.

    well that's where it starts for Berto, next up he's looking at a reasonably solid opponent who hasn't quite got over the hump (ex vs Mosley)

    should be an interesting fight. and if Berto's as good as we think, he should get by Collazo.
    I completely agree but that's why I think Bradley will have a brighter future than Berto unless he starts beating everyone there is to beat then that would make Berto a beast but what I mean is Bradley has the easier road, but if Berto overcomes his challenges then he is the future biggest star.

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    • MJ406
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      #22
      Originally posted by PR Boxer
      I completely agree but that's why I think Bradley will have a brighter future than Berto unless he starts beating everyone there is to beat then that would make Berto a beast but what I mean is Bradley has the easier road, but if Berto overcomes his challenges then he is the future biggest star.
      and it's because of that lack of depth that Bradley's already pretty close to the top.

      he went from some obscurity to belt holder .. to right now having a chance to unify and hold half the recognized titles in his division not bad for 23-0

      and if he gets by Holt there'd only be the best of the rest to take on .. if not Hatton-Pacquiao winner, maybe the Ngoudjo-Urango winner?

      where Berto is just getting to facing that upper level opposition, and to be honest with Mosley-Margarito-Cotto all lined up to face each other it's not like Andre had the opportunity to face the best anyway.

      but it's probably a good thing as he isn't ready yet.

      **again I just find the career comparison between the 2 (Bradley/Berto) to be quite fascinating .. same record, same age, same Alphabet title and both defended title once

      however 1 is aiming at title unification his next fight

      and the other is facing a top 10, top 12 contender in his division.

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        #23
        But like you've pointed out Berto couldn't unify the WBO is pretty much Cotto's belt, the WBA Margarito, IBF Clottey, If he were to step up and fight the best I'll pretty much would recomend him fighting Clottey and work his way up from there but first let him go through some tests and then we'll see.

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          #24
          I think Berto is a better athlete and more skilled than Bradley but Bradley is the better boxer. On top of that Bradley is in an easier division so I think he will have a better career.

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            #25
            Sorry, but Junior Witter was much more of a risk and test then Kendall Holt.

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            • MJ406
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              #26
              Originally posted by PR Boxer
              But like you've pointed out Berto couldn't unify the WBO is pretty much Cotto's belt, the WBA Margarito, IBF Clottey, If he were to step up and fight the best I'll pretty much would recomend him fighting Clottey and work his way up from there but first let him go through some tests and then we'll see.
              well im not saying Berto can't unify because of the current champ's

              just with Margarito lining a fight up vs Mosley on January 24th

              and then planning to take on Cotto after that (while Cotto picks up a belt, the WBO like you said in Feb)

              it's out of Berto's hands .. cuz he (Andre) isn't fighting Margarito or Cotto .. there fighting each other.

              Clottey would be a good choice, however I would have to think that if Clottey can get by his mandatory Cintron

              I would think Joshua would have the leg up on facing the Marg-Cotto 2 winner rather then facing Berto

              but the above will all go to **** unless Berto can get by Collazo.

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              • Mojita
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                #27
                Bertos not getting past Collazo.

                Bradley is the future of 140. He's going to improve and rule 140.

                Berto IMO gets litup by elite competition.

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