Andre Berto and Tim Bradley

[hammerhiem]

1st time hes faced a top 10 ww... not a top 20

Who has he faced that was top 20?

[THE REED]

forbes is ranked higher than 20

[KJB]

Bradley will, IMO, have a more successful career. Berto is in too much of a lion's den, and doesnt seem to have the defensive skills to be the top guy there. Bradley on the other hand is a well rounded fighter, and the couple of guys who might beat him now wont give him a fight right now.

[hammerhiem]

forbes is ranked higher than 20

In 2006 maybe, the guy had lost 3 out the four fights leading up to Berto.

[THE REED]

i dont rank them.. he is what he is

[hammerhiem]

i dont rank them.. he is what he is

Yeah ranked in 60's post Berto which says to me he wasn't in the 20's prior to it.

[THE REED]

then again.. castillo is ranked #19.. and hes completely gone. i doubt forbes is 40 places worse than castillo

[PR Boxer]

you could almost say the same toward Bradley .. Witter was very negative in their fight and kinda caughted it up

and Stevie Forbes aside (who was Berto's first title defense)

look who Bradley took on in his first title defense .. Edner Cherry who is a natural Lightweight.

IMO both still have a lot to prove.

Still Witter was easily top 5 in the division when Bradley beat him.

regardless of who Bradley faced in the division. He already faced top 5 competition in his division when facing Witter and is going to face top 5 competiotion when facing Holt whereas Berto is facing top 10 competition right now. I don't have anything against Berto actually I like Berto but I can't look over the fact he hasn't faced tough competition yet.

[hookoutofhell]

i like bradley, i think berto is a talented kid but theres something about bradey hes teak tough and a better all rounded fighter than some give him credit for. witter is no slouch yet bradley looked the quicker fighter, its hard to tell and i think we'll see just how good he really is when he faces holt. i like bradley though, theres something about him.

berto may actually may be the more talneted fighter out of the 2, but i just think that theres a bit more smoke and mirrors to him. he was hurt a few times by forbes and he just generally has a few questions that i dont think he'll be able to answer hanging over his head. a good fighter onetheless and one to wacth out for but i see the top dogs beating him at the moment.

[MJ406]

Still Witter was easily top 5 in the division when Bradley beat him.

regardless of who Bradley faced in the division. He already faced top 5 competition in his division when facing Witter and is going to face top 5 competiotion when facing Holt whereas Berto is facing top 10 competition right now. I don't have anything against Berto actually I like Berto but I can't look over the fact he hasn't faced tough competition yet.

In a division where Malignaggi is a top 5 fighter, it shows you how shallow 140 is. I mean 140 is pretty wide open despite having one dominant fighter (Ricky Hatton)

but Bradley is making up for the Cherry opponent selection (1st title defense not terrible) with taking on Holt for his second title defense. and Bradley did aggressively pursue that fight .... a title unification AND taking on a top 140 pounder IMO you can't get much better then that. (outside of fighting Hatton of course)

where Welterweight, there's Margarito looking like the man right now, but even he has a loss to Williams. (who lost to Quintana, but avenged that etc)

well even Berto vs Collazo .. I'd say Luis is def top 12, but top 10 might be bit outta Collazo's reach

Mosley dominated him, Margarito and Cotto I would put ahead of Luis and I have to throw in Clottey and Williams. hey with Floyd's retirement and Zab looking at 140

maybe Collazo is top 10, based on the above but the losses to Mosley + Hatton hurt his standing.

well that's where it starts for Berto, next up he's looking at a reasonably solid opponent who hasn't quite got over the hump (ex vs Mosley)

should be an interesting fight. and if Berto's as good as we think, he should get by Collazo.