MEXICO vs. PUERTO RICO boxers/fans Rivalry when did it all started???

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  • Kelly  Robinson
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    #11
    This is some interesting ****. Thanks for making this thread. I found this:

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    • IwatchBoxing
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      Wilfred Benitez
      Benitez was the best defensive fighter of his era, and not by a little. You just had to see him fight once to know it. If you saw him boxing rings around the great Antonio Cervantes, at 17 years old for cripes' sake, or Carlos Palomino or Roberto Duran, you knew how special he was. He hated to train and loved to party but if you want to see one of the smoothest defensive fighters of the last 50 years, get a tape of prime Benitez. He was pure magic.

      Hector Camacho
      There are those who still don't take Camacho seriously because of his persona and ring style, but the Camacho who tore through a pair of divisions in the early 1980s was a very good fighter. He beat Rafael Limon, Rafael Solis, Jose Luis Ramirez, Freddie Roach and others. Even later on he was still too good for Ray Mancini, Vinny Pazienza, Howard Davis and Greg Haugen (he also lost to Haugen). And he proved his heart once and for all when he lasted the distance with Julio Cesar Chavez, despite taking a terrific beating.

      Esteban DeJesus
      DeJesus wasn't only the first guy to beat Roberto Duran. He beat a lot of talented fighters, such as Ray Lampkin and Johnny Gant and Alfonso Frazier. Duran will forever overshadow him, but what's terrible about being second best to maybe the greatest lightweight ever? Of DeJesus' five career losses, two were to Duran, one was to Antonio Cervantes, and another was in his very last fight, to Saoul Mamby. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

      Carlos DeLeon
      DeLeon is another guy many don't take seriously, but he got a lot accomplished in the cruiserweight division. He won a piece of the title four different times and beat about every decent cruiserweight there was throughout the 1980s. It wasn't a very deep division and DeLeon wasn't especially dominant, but he was a very stubborn, skilled fighter who fought at the top of his division for nearly a decade. What more can you ask a fighter to do?

      Wilfredo Gomez
      Gomez was a magnificent puncher with underrated skills and a cannon of a right hand. He still holds the record for title defenses at junior featherweight with 17, and also owns the fourth longest knockout streak ever, at 32 straight. He stopped 88% of his opponents and fought the best of a brilliant era. It's true that in the biggest fight of his career he crashed against Salvador Sanchez, and Azumah Nelson did a job on him too later on. But at his best, Gomez was a 122-pound Godzilla.

      Carlos Ortiz
      Ortiz couldn't punch like Gomez or box like Benitez but on his day almost no one put the two together the way he did. When he had to move and box he did, like when he decisioned and dethroned the power-punching Joe Brown to win the lightweight title. But he liked to punch better than anything and when he did it right, which was most of the time, he was a sight. There wasn't a better or more fluid combination puncher in the business when Ortiz was in his groove. He could do it all.

      Edwin Rosario
      In an era that was full of big punchers, Rosario may have been the best. His right cross produced many of the most chilling knockouts of the period and was a feared weapon. The left hook was good, too. A single hook to the point of Hector Camacho's chin in their close bout turned Camacho into a safety-first boxer for the rest of his career. "Chapo" was flawed, but most of the time his power made up for it. It was enough to get him elected posthumously into the boxing hall of fame this year.

      Jose Torres
      Torres' one-punch, body-shot kayo of Willie Pastrano in 1965 is reflective of the kind of fighter he was early on: calculating, efficient, and a brutal puncher. He softened somewhat as a champion - he admits the drive to defend the title wasn't as great as the drive to win it - but at his best he was superb. Neither all puncher nor all boxer, he could do most things very well and is today one of the game's most respected elder statesmen.

      Felix Trinidad
      Things ended badly for Trinidad, but they do for most fighters. He had a heck of a run. From the time he knocked out Maurice Blocker in 1993 to his controversial decision win over Oscar De La Hoya in '99, there wasn't a more dominant champion in the game. He was deadly as a welterweight and even the move to 154 didn't diminish his power -ask Fernando Vargas or David Reid. His destruction of William Joppy, a full-fledged middleweight, was breathtaking. When you're talking about great Puerto Rican fighters, Trinidad is right near the top.

      Wilfredo Vazquez
      Vazquez was a three-division titleholder and one of the tougher featherweights around for the better part of the 1990s. He's one of a handful of fighters from the era with more than 50 career wins, and scored 41 knockouts by the time he was done. No one will ever mistake him for one of the great featherweights ever, but Vazquez did very well for himself with solid skills and a killer of a left hook. It's possible that he might have wrung out a few more wins had not the more athletically gifted Naseem Hamed come along when he did.


      this list has Felix Trinidad at 11 of top 12
      http://www.***********.com/1433-top-...-fighters.html

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      • IwatchBoxing
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        #13
        Saddos list
        1.Benitez
        2.De Jesus
        3.Sixto Escobar
        5.Juan Laporte
        6.John John Molina
        7.Carlos Ortiz
        8.Rosario
        9.Samuel Serrano
        10.Jose Torres
        11.Trinidad
        12.Wilfredo Vazquez

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        • oc9979
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          #14
          Wilfredo Gomez vs Raul Tirado (WBC super bantamweight)
          Wilfredo Gomez vs Roberto Rubaldino (WBC super bantamweight)
          Nelson Dieppa vs Ulises Solis (WBO light flyweight)
          Sammy Fuentes vs Fidel Avendano (WBO light welterweight)
          Sammy Fuentes vs Hector Lopez (WBO light welterweight)
          Wilfred Benitez vs Carlos Palomino (WBC welterweight)
          Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate (WBC super bantamweight)
          Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Antonio Lopez (WBC super bantamweight)
          Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Meza (WBC super bantamweight)
          Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor (WBC super bantamweight)
          John John Molina vs Manuel Medina (IBF super featherweight)
          Jose De Jesus vs Isidro Perez (WBO light flyweight)
          Jose De Jesus vs Fernando Martinez (WBO light flyweight)
          Jose Ruiz vs Armando Velasco (WBO super flyweight)
          Josue Camacho vs Eddie Vallejo (WBO light flyweight)
          Juan Manuel Lopez over Cesar Figueroa (WBO super bantamweight)
          Juan Manuel Lopez over Daniel Ponce De Leon (WBO super bantamweight)
          Miguel Cotto vs Alfonso Gomez (WBA welterweight)
          Felix Trinidad vs Ramon Campas (IBF welterweight)
          Hector Camacho vs Jose Luis Ramirez (WBC lightweight)
          Hector Camacho vs Rafael Limon (WBC super featherweight)
          Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares I (WBO light flyweight)
          Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares II (WBO light flyweight)
          Ivan Calderon vs Lorenzo Trejo (WBO minimumweight)
          Ivan Calderon vs Roberto Carlos Leyva (WBO minimumweight)
          John John Molina vs Goyo Vargas (IBF super featherweight)
          Daniel Santos vs Antonio Margarito II (WBO light middleweight)
          Daniel Santos vs Ramon Luis Campas (WBO light middleweight)
          Edwin Rosario vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1 (WBC lightweight)
          Eric Morel vs Isidro Garcia (WBA flyweight)
          Eric Morel vs Gilberto Keb Baas (WBA flyweight)
          Esteban De Jesus vs Vicente Saldivar (WBC lightweight)
          Felix Trinidad vs Oscar De La Hoya (WBC/IBF welterweight)
          Alex Sanchez vs Victor Burgos I (WBO minimumweight)
          Alex Sanchez vs Oscar Andrade (WBO minimumweight)
          Alex Sanchez vs Rafael Orozco (WBO minimumweight)
          Alex Sanchez vs Tomas Rivera (WBO minimumweight)
          Alfredo Escalera vs Sigfredo Rodriguez (WBC super featherweight)
          Carlos De Leon vs Alvaro Yaqui Lopez (WBC cruiserweight)
          Carlos Ortiz vs Reymundo Battling Torres (World Light Welterweight)

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          • Ch@mpBox@PR
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            #15
            This has been going since Gomez KO of Zarate and Sanchez KO of Gomez.Tthis is a great rivalry, very entertaining!!!!!

            Top 3 Skill wise from each country
            Mex
            1.Ricardo "El Finito" Lopez
            2.Salvador Sanchez
            3.Marco Antonio Barrera

            PR

            1.Wilfredo Benitez
            2.Ivan Calderon
            3.Hector "El Macho" Camacho

            Top 3 ATG from each country
            Mex
            1.Julio Cesar Chavez
            2.Ricardo "El Finito" Lopez
            3.Salvador Sanchez

            PR
            1.Felix "Tito" Trinidad
            2.Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez
            3.Wilfred Benitez

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            • xcaret
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              #16
              Originally posted by oc9979
              Wilfredo Gomez vs Raul Tirado (WBC super bantamweight)
              Wilfredo Gomez vs Roberto Rubaldino (WBC super bantamweight)
              Nelson Dieppa vs Ulises Solis (WBO light flyweight)
              Sammy Fuentes vs Fidel Avendano (WBO light welterweight)
              Sammy Fuentes vs Hector Lopez (WBO light welterweight)
              Wilfred Benitez vs Carlos Palomino (WBC welterweight)
              Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate (WBC super bantamweight)
              Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Antonio Lopez (WBC super bantamweight)
              Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Meza (WBC super bantamweight)
              Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor (WBC super bantamweight)
              John John Molina vs Manuel Medina (IBF super featherweight)
              Jose De Jesus vs Isidro Perez (WBO light flyweight)
              Jose De Jesus vs Fernando Martinez (WBO light flyweight)
              Jose Ruiz vs Armando Velasco (WBO super flyweight)
              Josue Camacho vs Eddie Vallejo (WBO light flyweight)
              Juan Manuel Lopez over Cesar Figueroa (WBO super bantamweight)
              Juan Manuel Lopez over Daniel Ponce De Leon (WBO super bantamweight)
              Miguel Cotto vs Alfonso Gomez (WBA welterweight)
              Felix Trinidad vs Ramon Campas (IBF welterweight)
              Hector Camacho vs Jose Luis Ramirez (WBC lightweight)
              Hector Camacho vs Rafael Limon (WBC super featherweight)
              Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares I (WBO light flyweight)
              Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares II (WBO light flyweight)
              Ivan Calderon vs Lorenzo Trejo (WBO minimumweight)
              Ivan Calderon vs Roberto Carlos Leyva (WBO minimumweight)
              John John Molina vs Goyo Vargas (IBF super featherweight)
              Daniel Santos vs Antonio Margarito II (WBO light middleweight)
              Daniel Santos vs Ramon Luis Campas (WBO light middleweight)
              Edwin Rosario vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1 (WBC lightweight)
              Eric Morel vs Isidro Garcia (WBA flyweight)
              Eric Morel vs Gilberto Keb Baas (WBA flyweight)
              Esteban De Jesus vs Vicente Saldivar (WBC lightweight)
              Felix Trinidad vs Oscar De La Hoya (WBC/IBF welterweight)
              Alex Sanchez vs Victor Burgos I (WBO minimumweight)
              Alex Sanchez vs Oscar Andrade (WBO minimumweight)
              Alex Sanchez vs Rafael Orozco (WBO minimumweight)
              Alex Sanchez vs Tomas Rivera (WBO minimumweight)
              Alfredo Escalera vs Sigfredo Rodriguez (WBC super featherweight)
              Carlos De Leon vs Alvaro Yaqui Lopez (WBC cruiserweight)
              Carlos Ortiz vs Reymundo Battling Torres (World Light Welterweight)

              oh my god, please remove the taxi cab drivers...

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              • Eric Holder
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                #17
                Originally posted by xcaret
                oh my god, please remove the taxi cab drivers...
                .............

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                • oc9979
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by El Cabron
                  .............
                  sorry i was researching and i couldnt find the rest of the people i only found half

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                  • IwatchBoxing
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by xcaret
                    oh my god, please remove the taxi cab drivers...
                    who are we left with than

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                    • KingChile
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                      This has been going since Gomez KO of Zarate and Sanchez KO of Gomez.Tthis is a great rivalry, very entertaining!!!!!

                      Top 3 Skill wise from each country
                      Mex
                      1.Ricardo "El Finito" Lopez
                      2.Salvador Sanchez
                      3.Marco Antonio Barrera

                      PR

                      1.Wilfredo Benitez
                      2.Ivan Calderon
                      3.Hector "El Macho" Camacho

                      Top 3 ATG from each country
                      Mex
                      1.Julio Cesar Chavez
                      2.Ricardo "El Finito" Lopez
                      3.Salvador Sanchez

                      PR
                      1.Felix "Tito" Trinidad
                      2.Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez
                      3.Wilfred Benitez


                      Funny how PR's "top boxers" (Camachoe, Benites, Gomes) were all druggies

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