Joe Calzaghe talks on fighting Prime Jones, fighting the best

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Man, you have no idea how long i've been waiting to find that article again. I've been round and round with allot of brittish fellows on here explaining that but they never would consider believing their hero said those things. I could never convince them, but with this link, I now have the proof i've been refering to but could not find again. Thanks a million.

What does it prove, if you don't mind me asking? This article is old news, I thought everyone had seen it.



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[Chase8400]

Hardly unreasonable, RJJ was p4p No1 in 03 wasn't he?

If you are going to try and break America, facing a Prime RJJ is not a good way to do it, lose/lose situation, lose and you're another bum, win and you beat America's poster boy and everyone hates you.

I'm not one of those who says that Calzaghe would beat RJJ but he has a better chance than all but a couple of people RJJ fought.

That said I think he would beat the RJJ Tarver fought because of the damage that going to HW did to him. RJJ was never the great he was before that.

Agreed, wholeheartedly. Joe would have given a good effort againt prime Jones. However, I just don't think enough people realize that the fight in November is nothing like it would have been prime 4 prime. This article shows that even Joe knew the risk was way greater back in the day and he was not even willing to fight Jones here to make his name. Jones didn't duck Joe. Period. It was the other way around if anything. Jones was just that good and it really needs to be recognized. Thanks.

[Testdead]

Agreed, wholeheartedly. Joe would have given a good effort againt prime Jones. However, I just don't think enough people realize that the fight in November is nothing like it would have been prime 4 prime. This article shows that even Joe knew the risk was way greater back in the day and he was not even willing to fight Jones here to make his name. Joe didn't duck Joe. Period. It was the other way around if anything. Jones was just that good and it really needs to be recognized. Thanks.

Your right Roy might have won 2-3rds but ultimately got stopped.

Prime for prime a mean.

[Chase8400]

What does it prove, if you don't mind me asking? This article is old news, I thought everyone had seen it.

I don't mind at all. It proves that Jones didn't duck Joe, like allot of the huggers elude to. I was simply saying that Joe knew the deal back when Jones was at his peak and knew the fight was almost not winnable, therefore he didn't take it. The people who somehow think Jones ducked Calzaghe are way off base and I just had nothing to prove otherwise. Now I do.

We both know Calzaghe doesn't beat Jones in his prime.

[Chase8400]

Your right Joe might have won 2-3rds but ultimately got stopped.

Prime for prime a mean.

I fixed that for ya.

If old Jones goes the distance with Calzaghe, the young Jones stops Joe.

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Joe never wanted to fight Jones in his prime and Calzaghe's own words prove it!

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-5499540-details/I+am+the+best,+says+honest+Joe+/article.do

Maybe he was joking when he said this?

"I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he's ever had," said Calzaghe. "But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown ***els I wouldn't want to risk it."

In other words Calz priced himself out of big fights.

Calz had to have realized that Hopkins and Jones didn't need Calz... he needed Hopkins and Jones to legitimize career.

Barely getting past a 43 year old senior citizen and failing to KO a shot RJJ does not legitmize Calz's career.

[Chase8400]

Some of you should check out hbos bio on calzaghe. They even said that Calzaghe wanted Roy earlier in Roy's career yet Roy would always price himself out. Hbo writes the checks, so I do not see why they would lie.

So I guess we should listen to HBO over Calzaghe's own words. LOL.

I guess you were one of the ones who just don't get it. Move along already.

[thedon2006]

I think Joe lack of desire to promote himself to the fans held him back too but he would not be undefeated if he fought Jones and Hopkins in their prime.

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What does it prove, if you don't mind me asking? This article is old news, I thought everyone had seen it.

It kind of proves Joe didn't fancy a fight with prime Roy, i for one can't blame him.

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I don't mind at all. It proves that Jones didn't duck Joe, like allot of the huggers elude to. I was simply saying that Joe knew the deal back when Jones was at his peak and knew the fight was almost not winnable, therefore he didn't take it. The people who somehow think Jones ducked Calzaghe are way off base and I just had nothing to prove otherwise. Now I do.

We both know Calzaghe doesn't beat Jones in his prime.

I wouldn't say Jones ducked Calzaghe, but I wouldn't say he was jumping at the chance to fight him either. Neither fighter ducked the other. What Calzaghe said was he'd want a huge check for fighting Jones. Who can blame him? It is a risky fight because Roy was excellent, but it works both ways. After all, Roy has said the same thing, according to Warren; that they had fights with Roy fall through because he always priced himself out. Roy did the same thing with Michalczewski. Some would say he ducked Michalczewski. Hopkins priced himself out of the Calzaghe fight.

I don't like all the talk of X-fighter ducking Y-fighter. It's never black & white, there are multiple factors to consider; Jones could fight easier fights in America for good money. Jones was in a different weight class, having moved up to light heavyweight in 1996 -- a whole year before Calzaghe became super middleweight champion by beating Eubank in 1997. Hopkins was a middleweight. He skipped super middleweight completely in 2006 and moved up two divisions.

So anyway... that's where you and I differ. Any talk of Jones beating Calzaghe prime for prime is merely speculation. I don't believe Roy would do as well against younger Calzaghe as some people believe. Joe would have always been a hard fight for Roy; he hit hard, fought hard for 3 minutes of every round, threw just as many punches as he does now, and was almost impossible to knock down. When he did get knocked down -- first time was in 2003 -- he got off the floor and won the fight in the same round by TKO. Calzaghe's heart and determination is unreal, and this is often what wins him fights: he will not acknowledge the possibility of losing.

I'm pretty much 50/50 on the outcome of such a fantasy matchup. Anyone who thinks it's an easy fight for either fighter isn't thinking right.



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