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Joe Calzaghe: Final Options For The Italian Dragon
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Originally posted by danc1984 View PostOnly god knows how anyone could think that Hopkins "clearly" won that fight. I scored it for Calzaghe but I am ok with ppl having it for Hopkins, as long as they are willing to admit that if he did win it it was by a razor thin margin. There was nothing clear about it.
Originally posted by hammerhiem View PostIf you scored that fight clearly for Hopkins then the only thing Joe could ever do to satisfy someone like yourself is to KO Hopkins and we both know thats not going to happen.
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Originally posted by minion View PostNever went Prime v Prime against Excellent Boxers such as RJJ and Hopkins who were in their Prime in their era.
Back on topic I only see two real options, retire or fight Chad Dawson. Plenty have spouted garbage about him 'ducking' Dawson as they are unable to actually look at the facts and realise Dawson didn't even become a serious contender for a fight against JC until he beat Tarver. However, if he fought anyone else I think that would be a reasonable accusation, Dawson is now obviously 'the' man and the strongest potential opponent. Retirement would not be 'ducking'; JC has nothing to prove.. it just depends whether he really wants it any more. I don't think he does, or he would never have threatened to retire in the first place.
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Originally posted by The_Visitation View PostYou are suggesting JC had some sort of choice. He didn't, because they wouldn't fight him. He was the WBO champion. From Wales. That nobody in the US had even heard of. Who was obviously dangerous. You don't have to be a fr*gging genius to work out why those fights never happened.
Back on topic I only see two real options, retire or fight Chad Dawson. Plenty have spouted garbage about him 'ducking' Dawson as they are unable to actually look at the facts and realise Dawson didn't even become a serious contender for a fight against JC until he beat Tarver. However, if he fought anyone else I think that would be a reasonable accusation, Dawson is now obviously 'the' man and the strongest potential opponent. Retirement would not be 'ducking'; JC has nothing to prove.. it just depends whether he really wants it any more. I don't think he does, or he would never have threatened to retire in the first place.
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Originally posted by minion View PostFight Chad Dawson or give Hopkins a rematch.
I dont really care. If he wants money, that's his choice, but if there ever as a boxer who had no right to play the "Legend" card it's Calzaghe.
Never went Prime v Prime against Excellent Boxers such as RJJ and Hopkins who were in their Prime in their era.
It's pathetic the only decent guy Calzaghe went Prime v Prime with was Kessler, possibly Lacy, though he was relativley green and anyone with any knowledg about boxing felt Lacy was going to get KO'd anyway.
Calzaghe has never been the underdog, which says alot.
You know what, just retire, you're a let down
Originally posted by hammerhiem View PostHe's been a massive underdog at least twice probably three times.
Eubank
Mitchell
Lacy.
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How is it that everyone fails to mention Glen Johnson in a discussion of the top light heavies around. You have Dawson as Calzaghe's first option but the fact is that Johnson already beat Dawson and was robbed of the decision. Maybe the reasons are that everyone knows that Johnsons's style, relentless pressure with an iron chin, will be too much for Calzaghe. Just as Margarito wore down Cotto. Another reason is that Johnson does not have the following with casual boxing watchers. Any true boxing fan knows that Johnson is a verybad man.
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Originally posted by mangler View PostDawson - won't be enuf $ in it for him to take it
Kessler - already beat his ass clearly enuf that a rematch ain't necessary
Hopkins - won't rematch him, and won't be much demand for it cuz it was dull
AA - won't happen cuz he ain't gonna go to 175 and Joe won't go back to 168
Froch - won't be enuf $ in this either
I'm pretty sure Joe C is done.
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Dawson may be the hottest light-heavy around, but he is not a fan favorite. In fact there really isn't any "hot' fights out there for Joe. Pavlik may have been an anticipated match, but his run in with BHop killed that and a bout with Johnson may be a real action fight, but who really cares. Joe's best bet is retirement.
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