Proof boxers would dominate MMA

[DiegoFuego]

I doubt boxers would dominate MMA. Some boxers might do well... perhaps Cintron but once they are on the ground it could be all over within secs...

how exactly would these MMA guys get them on the ground? these guys are slipping after attempting KICKS and ending up on the canvas. none of these guys are slamming anyone on their backs or anything close to it.

[Zocalo]

A well rounded MMA person would exploit the weakness of a boxer and tear them down... I love boxing but it is a different sport compared to MMA. You just can't send someone like Miranda out there and expect for him to get a KO.

[DiegoFuego]

these two guys are billed as light heavyweights. I know the weights are different in MMA, but you can't honestly tell me you couldn't see Chad Dawson circling and nailing these guys with complete ease

[DiegoFuego]

A well rounded MMA person would exploit the weakness of a boxer and tear them down... I love boxing but it is a different sport compared to MMA. You just can't send someone like Miranda out there and expect for him to get a KO.

I said someone with decent boxing skills. That wouldn't include Miranda

[DiegoFuego]

WHILE STUMBLING, this Evans guy lands a left-right combination LOL

[Stab Judah]

I can't stand Mir, all i can say is the guy is huge just his size and power alone is going to ko a few guys.

Nog is old and hasn't done well at all in his last few fights.

Both of these guys are BJJ masters and had no damn reason at all to be on their feet in the first place.

[DiegoFuego]

I can't stand Mir, all i can say is the guy is huge just his size and power alone is going to ko a few guys.

Nog is old and hasn't done well at all in his last few fights.

Both of these guys are BJJ masters and had no damn reason at all to be on their feet in the first place.

but the point is they were, and it isn't really debatable that any top 10 heavyweight boxer crushes either of those guys tonight

[sunthunder]

if you notice, most of the best strikers with takedown defense in mma don't have an extensive background in wrestling. cc, rampage, andrei arlovski, bj penn, liddell, tim slyvia, etc. so i'm guessing it would be nothing for a boxer to learn td defense. if that's the case then yes the boxer is likely to win. even machida, a fighter with no takedown defense, was able to keep the fight standing and outstrike tito ortiz, who is an accomplished wrestler.

Arlovski - trained Sambo before anything else.
Rampage - High school state wrestling champ.
BJ Penn - BJJ Prodigy
Liddell - College division 1 wrestler
Sylvia - High school wrestler
Machida - Sumo wrestled from a young age.

And about Nogueira - his time is sadly over. He looked slow, had no head movement. He's fought better strikers in the past and performed a lot better than he did tonight.

In the 2004 Pride Heavyweight tournament, he had a back and forth fight with Sergei Kharitonov, which was largely a standing battle. Kharitonov turned down the oppurtunity to box at the 2004 Olympics to participate in the tournament. Both gave a good account of themselves, and it's clear that the Nogueira who fought tonight is far removed from the fighter he was 4 years ago. To say these guys completely lack boxing skill is unfair.

[Stab Judah]

but the point is they were, and it isn't really debatable that any top 10 heavyweight boxer crushes either of those guys tonight

If they landed a punch sure.
Nog could also tap out any top 10 boxer and i just hate Mir so i don't care.

[DiegoFuego]

When you win with as little boxing as Mir showed tonight, it says a lot about how bad the sport is.

Here's something else to consider: even the commentator was calling Mir's performance MASTERFUL. It was a complete joke, but the commentator was IMPRESSED. That is ****ing sad.