Why should the boxing world bend over for Floyd?

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  • mellow_mood
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    #61
    Originally posted by jantzen212003
    Let me answer your questions by 1st making it clear that I LOVE PBF the fighter, it goes no further than that.

    yes boxing should bend over for PBF due to him NAVIGATING his way through the weight classes to slay the golden goose and creating a name for himself in the process(dancing with the stars and WWE and other fabricated controversies). thats a lot of classes to jump and dominate the way he did. this imo classifies him as a great fighter and entertainer that can enhance the interest in the sport. hate it or love it he has adopted the hip-hop image that has garnered many with the attention of movie stars and other A listers in the public eye.

    Has he pushed himself, thats up for debate. the limits you are talking about i.e. fighting the "best" wws, NO! But who is the best WW currently? There is no best! Thats my frustration. margie, cotto, clottey, or pw have yet to truly establish themselves. neither can say they are a cut above the rest and arum is denying us the opportunity to settle this. so if pbf beat one then he would have to fight the next and so forth and so on. I would love this format but lets face it, this guy has been at it for years and his time is almost up. I guarantee if these wws, jmw, or jww distinguish themselves as the best then there is no where for him to hide. the money and undisputed facts will force him to fight. the only 0 he cares about are the ones he can spend! until then he will cash in on easy mega paydays.
    I got you!..

    and you definitly have a point in terms of what mayweather has bring to the sport.

    but...

    what should pwill, margo, cotto needs to do in order to establish themselves to get pbf in the ring?.....


    what does hatton or manny pac did????

    it cant be THE MONETARY TERM... u know why... because.. even that pac is on fire right now!! there' isnt proof of him being a BIG DRAW...

    hatton is... and that brings 0.... to mayweathers check but manny pac... isnt yet.. or it hasnt been proved yet....

    what did they did... to deserve a shot...... ? or what do they have in common????

    establish themselves in lower weight classes...

    thanks for the real talk!
    Last edited by mellow_mood; 12-29-2008, 03:44 PM.

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    • Ishy Aytan
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      #62
      all this talk about Floyd not fighting the best 'ww' is getting old...

      My question is, when SRL moved up to Light heavy, did he face the best at that weight? NO, why? Because we did'nt expect him to as he moved up a lot of weight classes.

      Floyd started at Supper Feather, SRL started at Welter... Floyd moved up 5 weight classes to Light Middle, SRL moved up 5 weight classes to light heavy. Floyd beat the best Light Middle, but did'nt beat the best WW... whoever that is, as many have different opinions on it.

      Give the guy a break, the reason we still go on about him is because he was that damn good. No one was or is on par with his natural ability. He was the best of our sport and you can't blame people for wanting to see him back.

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      • Sin City
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        #63
        Originally posted by ELPacman
        He goes into retirement after TKOing a guy that clearly was never meant for the 147lbs division in Hatton. It was clear as day after Callazo nearly had him out. He was smart and returned back down, only to go back up for the paycheck with Floyd. Now Floyd thinks he has the upperhand and that we REALLY need him back. Exactly why? Is it just because his mouth is more entertaining than his fights? I don't see how a man can go into retirement, avoid all the challenges at his weight this way, see how things play out, and then come back when he can find the least dangerous route but biggest pay. I mean, how are ATGs defied this way? They shouldn't be, and this is why boxing is so wrong. It needs to be played along a definite ranking system that means, if you beat boxer C, then B, then you face A. And in that order with no way of skipping or jumping inbetween. That's why it loses so many casual fans because they only tune in to these supermatches.
        strongly agree..
        I sure do hope Mayweather doesn't come back though.
        Boxing doesn't need his shenanigans.

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        • Vasyl’s dad
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          #64
          Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
          all this talk about Floyd not fighting the best 'ww' is getting old...

          My question is, when SRL moved up to Light heavy, did he face the best at that weight? NO, why? Because we did'nt expect him to as he moved up a lot of weight classes.

          Floyd started at Supper Feather, SRL started at Welter... Floyd moved up 5 weight classes to Light Middle, SRL moved up 5 weight classes to light heavy. Floyd beat the best Light Middle, but did'nt beat the best WW... whoever that is, as many have different opinions on it.

          Give the guy a break, the reason we still go on about him is because he was that damn good. No one was or is on par with his natural ability. He was the best of our sport and you can't blame people for wanting to see him back.
          Ray never called himself the best ever, nor did he ridicule any potential opponents who wanted to fight him by degrading them in the public.


          Take the blinders off for just a quick minute and see that Floyds mouth wrote a check his skills can't cash.

          "hes a bum"
          "hes easy money"
          "he has 4 losses"
          "nobody knows him"
          "tell him to get his PPV up"
          "hes a c class fighter".

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          • larryx
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            #65
            money...isnt that why whores bend over????

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