The 130lbs version of Floyd vs The 130lbs versions of Erik, MAB and JMM

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  • El Chicano
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    #91
    Good Morning Boxing Scene! New audience this morning? Let's discuss.

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    • Brandish
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      #92
      there is nothing to discuss, morales, barrera, and marquez are not on floyd's level and if ricky beats pac you will see this. or if pac gets by ricky and meets floyd you will understand the difference betwen a fighter like pacman who is 6-3 in championship fights and only 5 titles defenses against floyd who is 18-0 in championship fights and 12 title defenses.

      floyd is on a whole nother level to these guys.

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      • MakeDamnSure
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        #93
        Originally posted by Brandish
        there is nothing to discuss, morales, barrera, and marquez are not on floyd's level and if ricky beats pac you will see this. or if pac gets by ricky and meets floyd you will understand the difference betwen a fighter like pacman who is 6-3 in championship fights and only 5 titles defenses against floyd who is 18-0 in championship fights and 12 title defenses.

        floyd is on a whole nother level to these guys.
        I agree by ducking the real challenge. Pac moved up 10 divisions already while Floyd never fights real challenges and ducks everyone at 147 like a coward that he is.

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        • Brandish
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          #94
          I agree by ducking the real challenge. Pac moved up 10 divisions already while Floyd never fights real challenges and ducks everyone at 147 like a coward that he is.
          why is pac only 6-3 in championship fights, and why only 5 title defenses

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          • ferocity
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            #95
            I think they all give him trouble since they all proved they can carry the 130 lbs well. But, Floyds is the naturally bigger guy. I think they'd give him problems but Floyd would win in the end.

            Look at Floyds fight with Goyo Vargas former 126 champ, and he gave Floyd trouble, some say he tested Floyd more so then anyone up to that point and Floyd knew he was in a fight but he was winning.

            I think Mab and Marquez would trouble Floyd more.

            Mab for his speed and boxing skills.

            Marquez for his countering abilities and defence/boxing skills.

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            • El Chicano
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              #96
              Originally posted by ferocity
              I think they all give him trouble since they all proved they can carry the 130 lbs well. But, Floyds is the naturally bigger guy. I think they'd give him problems but Floyd would win in the end.

              Look at Floyds fight with Goyo Vargas former 126 champ, and he gave Floyd trouble, some say he tested Floyd more so then anyone up to that point and Floyd knew he was in a fight but he was winning.

              I think Mab and Marquez would trouble Floyd more.

              Mab for his speed and boxing skills.

              Marquez for his countering abilities and defence/boxing skills.
              Good point with the Goyo fight, that being said, I think the 130lbs versions of MAB, Erik and JMM were so experienced and seasoned by that point that one of them could pull off a victory against the still young 130lbs version of Floyd. I really feel one of them could do it. Floyd would have been larger, but I'd never count the great three out.

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              • RL_GMA
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                #97
                I think Marquez would give Floyd the toughest fight win or lose.

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                • Flawless.
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                  I agree by ducking the real challenge. Pac moved up 10 divisions already while Floyd never fights real challenges and ducks everyone at 147 like a coward that he is.
                  Pacman started at 16 weighing 106. Mayweather at 16 was 106.

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                  • El Jesus
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by pacman777
                    i've watch robinson/lammota nad have seen mayweathers fight from gatti to his last one. i think that's a fair amount of knowledge to estimate where a boxer is at
                    how about morales run at 122? or barreras? floyds run at 130 was spectacular. In all honesty i have been watching this sport all my life, to this day i have found there is always something you dont know. my advice to you, post less, read and watch more. ask question, do less insulting and dont base your whole schtick on the heels of ONE fighter.

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                    • El Jesus
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Puas
                      Good point with the Goyo fight, that being said, I think the 130lbs versions of MAB, Erik and JMM were so experienced and seasoned by that point that one of them could pull off a victory against the still young 130lbs version of Floyd. I really feel one of them could do it. Floyd would have been larger, but I'd never count the great three out.
                      you may bring up experience, but all of those guys with the exception of marquez have shown they dont like movement, at all.. Floyd would stay on the move, then stop so as not to give them a rhythm, and then move again, go into his shell etc. Floyd fought 12 rounds back then, if barrera didint like jr jones, imagine how hed feel against floyd. In morales case, again, i dont see him matching floyds speed, or being able to time floyd for a counter, floyd doesnt give anyone a rhythm, ever. With marquez, sadly i think the chris john fight showed me that he really does have issues with superior boxers, not to mention, there are enough holes in his defense when he goes through these lulls in a fight to where floyd would counter fairly easily. In Eriks case i wont bring up the Raheem fight, he was older then

                      I respect all these guys and the only fighter i can honestly say i dont like is barrera, i never liked him, ever. But none of these guys are the kind of fighter to beat floyd and break his defense.

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