If Pacman and Mayweather both retired now. Pacman should be ranked higher

[aether]

I love the 2 floyd nutthuggers defending the **** out floyd.

Real talk it doesnt matter who faced who in the past. Y'all know what biggest difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao is???

Floyd compares himself to Sugar Ray Robinson but no credible boxing scribe or historian will put him even top 25 all time great

Pacquiao however is still active but actual credible boxing historians like Bert Sugar and Hall of fame trainers Emmanuel Steward and Angelo Dundee are already making a case for him as already being top 10 greatest ever.

So...."Pacquiao is not even top 50 ATG".....nice try Burner, but no cigar.

that's cause these guys base PBF's greatness on what HE COULD HAVE DONE BUT NEVER DID

he could have beaten kostya cause pbf ko'd hatton. never happened
he could have ko'd the de la hoya that fought pac. never happened
he could have beaten Margarito. also never happened
he could have beaten Cotto or Williams. never happened

the reason i rank pac higher pbf is because pac's greatness is not based on what he could, should, or most probably will do. it is based on what he's done, which is better than what floyd did in his career.

[Brandish]

that's cause these guys base PBF's greatness on what HE COULD HAVE DONE BUT NEVER DID

he could have beaten kostya cause pbf ko'd hatton. never happened
he could have ko'd the de la hoya that fought pac. never happened
he could have beaten Margarito. also never happened
he could have beaten Cotto or Williams. never happened

the reason i rank pac higher pbf is because pac's greatness is not based on what he could, should, or most probably will do. it is based on what he's done, which is better than what floyd did in his career.

1.what was pac's prime weight -- floyds 130

2. how many championship fights--floyd so far 18-0

3. how many title defenses-- floyd 12-0

4. how many sanctioned titles did he win in different weight classes floyd 5 weight classes

now lets really see how pac measures up:

1. prime weight ??? flyweight 112
2. 6-3 in championship fights 1 loss and 2 draws
3. 5 title defenses
4. 4 titles WBC 112, IBF 122, WBC 130, WBC 135

in conclusion pac is one of the weakest multi-divisional champions I have ever seen. 5 title defenses only 9 championship fights with six victoriess compared to floyd who is 18-0.

pac isn't even top 100 with these stats.

pac has alot of work to do to catch up with floyd

[aether]

1.what was pac's prime weight -- floyds 130

2. how many championship fights--floyd so far 18-0

3. how many title defenses-- floyd 12-0

4. how many sanctioned titles did he win in different weight classes floyd 5 weight classes

now lets really see how pac measures up:

1. prime weight ??? flyweight 112
2. 6-3 in championship fights 1 loss and 2 draws
3. 5 title defenses
4. 4 titles WBC 112, IBF 122, WBC 130, WBC 135

in conclusion pac is one of the weakest multi-divisional champions I have ever seen. 5 title defenses only 9 championship fights with six victoriess compared to floyd who is 18-0.

pac isn't even top 100 with these stats.

pac has alot of work to do to catch up with floyd

hmm... who did pac beat to get those titles? who did mayweather beat to get those titles? pac is greater than floyd as of now. deal with it

[shadeyfizzle]

1.what was pac's prime weight -- floyds 130

2. how many championship fights--floyd so far 18-0

3. how many title defenses-- floyd 12-0

4. how many sanctioned titles did he win in different weight classes floyd 5 weight classes

now lets really see how pac measures up:

1. prime weight ??? flyweight 112
2. 6-3 in championship fights 1 loss and 2 draws
3. 5 title defenses
4. 4 titles WBC 112, IBF 122, WBC 130, WBC 135

in conclusion pac is one of the weakest multi-divisional champions I have ever seen. 5 title defenses only 9 championship fights with six victoriess compared to floyd who is 18-0.

pac isn't even top 100 with these stats.

pac has alot of work to do to catch up with floyd

But Floyd is top 15 atg with championship fight wins against top quality opposition like Baldomir, N'dou, Corley, Mitchell and Brusseles??

[aether]

1.what was pac's prime weight -- floyds 130

2. how many championship fights--floyd so far 18-0

3. how many title defenses-- floyd 12-0

4. how many sanctioned titles did he win in different weight classes floyd 5 weight classes

now lets really see how pac measures up:

1. prime weight ??? flyweight 112
2. 6-3 in championship fights 1 loss and 2 draws
3. 5 title defenses
4. 4 titles WBC 112, IBF 122, WBC 130, WBC 135

in conclusion pac is one of the weakest multi-divisional champions I have ever seen. 5 title defenses only 9 championship fights with six victoriess compared to floyd who is 18-0.

pac isn't even top 100 with these stats.

pac has alot of work to do to catch up with floyd

that's hate coming from a floyd nut-hugger

[Brandish]

hmm... who did pac beat to get those titles? who did mayweather beat to get those titles? pac is greater than floyd as of now. deal with it

lets see who did pac beat to get those titles:

112--Chatchai Sasakul--wbc--(who is this again)
122--Lehlohonolo Ledwaba--IBF (who is this again)
130--Juan Manuel Marquez--WBC (great win) (Recognized lineal/ring champ)
135--david diaz--WBC (who is this)

Floyd Mayweather jr

130--HOFer Genaro Hernandez --WBC (Recognized lineal/ring champ)
135--HOFer Jose Kuis Castillo--WBC (Recognized lineal/ring champ)
140--HOFer Arturo Gatti --WBC
147--Carlos Baldomir--WBC (Recognized lineal/ring champ)
154--HOFer Oscar De La Hoya--WBC

so there you have it. floyd has defeated multiple ring, HOF caliber champions and pac has just one

you *******s better quit while you're ahead

[Brandish]

But Floyd is top 15 atg with championship fight wins against top quality opposition like Baldomir, N'dou, Corley, Mitchell and Brusseles??

ndou was a great title defense for floyd something pac doesn't seem capable of doing

[shadeyfizzle]

lets see who did pac beat to get those titles:

112--Chatchai Sasakul--wbc--(Recognized lineal/ring champ)
122--Lehlohonolo Ledwaba--IBF (Vacant ring champ. #1rated by ring)
126--Marco Antonio Barrera--(Recognized lineal/ring champ)
130--Juan Manuel Marquez--WBC (great win) (Recognized lineal/ring champ)
140--Ricky Hatton--IBF--(Recognized lineal/ring champ)
TBD
Floyd Mayweather jr

130--HOFer Genaro Hernandez --WBC (Recognized lineal/ring champ)
135--HOFer Jose Kuis Castillo--WBC (Recognized lineal/ring champ)
140--HOFer Arturo Gatti --WBC
147--Carlos Baldomir--WBC (Recognized lineal/ring champ)
154--HOFer Oscar De La Hoya--WBC

so there you have it. floyd has defeated multiple ring, HOF caliber champions and pac has just one

you *******s better quit while you're ahead

Fixed it for ya.

[Brandish]

Fixed it for ya.

naw you just made your self look like a fool..*******s realize now that he can't stand up tp floyd on any level.

saskul, and ledwaba are not going to the hof genaro, and castillo are. barrera did not have a title when he fought pac

so you still failed to explain why pac is only .500 in championship fights

and only has 5 title defenses

this should be fun

[shadeyfizzle]

naw you just made your self look like a fool..*******s realize now that he can't stand up tp floyd on any level.

saskul, and ledwaba are not going to the hof genaro, and castillo are. barrera did not have a title when he fought pac

so you still failed to explain why pac is only .500 in championship fights

and only has 5 title defenses

this should be fun

Barrera was the recognized lineal Ring Champ at 126. Winning the WBC belt from Erik Morales but refusing to accept the belt smart guy. If you wann go the hall of fame route.....

Barrera = HOF
Morales = HOF
Larios = HOF
Marquez = HOF
DLH =HOF
Some of Floyd's title defenses are a joke.

Who in their right mind actually believed Bruseles deserved a title shot??