Calzaghe's resume is miles better than Mayweather's

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  • DiegoFuego
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    #51
    I hate Calzaghe and Hopkins equally, but Calzaghe won that fight simply because Hopkins got tired. There is no way any of you can honestly tell me you scored 6 rounds for Hopkins.

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      #52
      Originally posted by F•R•K•O
      You guys saying fighters are robbing other fighters? Bull. It's the judges you should have beef with, not the fighters. JC did not rob BH, 2 of the 3 judges scored it for Calzaghe, and one had it for Hopkins. Just like the public -- probably 2 out of 3 people would say JC won the fight.
      The same can be said for Mayweather vs Castillo.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Enemy/Friend
        The same can be said for Mayweather vs Castillo.
        not at all. if you actually watch and score that fight, Mayweather clearly wins 5 of the first 6 rounds. there's no way Castillo swept the last 6

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          #54
          Originally posted by F•R•K•O
          You guys saying fighters are robbing other fighters? Bull. It's the judges you should have beef with, not the fighters. JC did not rob BH, 2 of the 3 judges scored it for Calzaghe, and one had it for Hopkins. Just like the public -- probably 2 out of 3 people would say JC won the fight.
          the 2 judges had it for calzaghe easily and the other spag judge had it only one point ahead to hopkins. people cant even complain

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            #55
            Originally posted by DiegoFuego
            not at all. if you actually watch and score that fight, Mayweather clearly wins 5 of the first 6 rounds. there's no way Castillo swept the last 6
            I know and he even gave him a rematch. Where is Bernards rematch? He certainly earned one after his last performance.

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            • S A M U R A I
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              #56
              Originally posted by Flawless.
              Peopel need to realise that Eubank was weight drained for the Cakzaghe fight. His last 2 fights were at 175 and was preparing WBC intercontinental light-heavyweight title, with a view to a world title shot at that weight. Eubank accepted a title fight at short notice entered a two week weight draining regimen and was last fight at SMW and went straight to CW after it.

              No, Eubank had only one fight at 175, not two, before fighting Calzaghe. He never made any excuses about weight either. The first cruiserweight fight against Thompson (the same Carl Thompson who knocked out David Haye, for those who don't know) was a whole 6 months after the Calzaghe fight. It is NOT a dramatic amount of weight difference considering the time span. "Went straight to cruiser"? That's bull****, my friend.

              The fight with Camilo Alarcon (the one before Calzaghe) was 7 months before Calzaghe. Trust me, Eubank didn't have to strain his body to fight Calzaghe, despite having to drop down a little further in weight than at first expected when he was preparing for a fight at light heavy. This also balances out. Don't forget, Calzaghe was also preparing to fight a completely different fight, plus he was young, had little pro experience, and still came out of that fight with wide UD. It was a brilliant win for a guy of his age and experience. Discredit that, and you look like a fool. Eubank was an amazing fighter, right until he retired.

              Again, I have never seen any complaints from Eubank. On the contrary, he has always given Calzaghe huge amounts of respect and never said a bad word about him or their fight.

              Please argue with facts, people. That's the problem around here, people often dramatize or make stuff up, and much of the time people simply regurgitate crap they read from some other guy on a forum. Their hatred towards Calzaghe is often born of ignorance.

              Now watch... I'll get accused of being a "nuthugger" by some ignorant troll, simply because I happen to know a few facts. One thing I know for sure, is that there are many people who have no idea what they are talking about when they speak of Calzaghe. Any little thing, they grab hold of it and blow it completely out of proportion, exaggerating minor details to try and make things seem much worse than they really are. The fact is, Joe Calzaghe is a very good fighter. You may not enjoy his style, and that's your choice, but the guy sure knows how to win and does not deserve the insane amount of disrespect he gets on here. Joe Calzaghe has achieved far more in the last few years than 99% of us on the entire forum could ever hope to achieve in our entire lifetimes, and the general hate towards fighters on this forum is pure gutter-level stuff.



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              Last edited by S A M U R A I; 12-24-2008, 08:43 PM.

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                #57
                Luis Dionisio Barrera
                Camilo Alarcon


                2 fights before Calzaghe

                Calzaghe was preparing for a fight at 168 not 175 like Eubank was

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by F•R•K•O
                  No, Eubank had only one fight at 175, not two, before fighting Calzaghe. He never made any excuses about weight either. The first cruiserweight fight against Thompson (the same Carl Thompson who knocked out David Haye, for those who don't know) was a whole 6 months after the Calzaghe fight. It is NOT a dramatic amount of weight difference considering the time span. "Went straight to cruiser"? That's bull****, my friend.

                  The fight with Camilo Alarcon (the one before Calzaghe) was 7 months before Calzaghe. Trust me, Eubank didn't have to strain his body to fight Calzaghe, despite having to drop down a little further in weight than at first expected when he was preparing for a fight at light heavy. This also balances out. Don't forget, Calzaghe was also preparing to fight a completely different fight, plus he was young, had little pro experience, and still came out of that fight with wide UD. It was a brilliant win for a guy of his age and experience. Discredit that, and you look like a fool. Eubank was an amazing fighter, right until he retired.

                  Again, I have never seen any complaints from Eubank. On the contrary, he has always given Calzaghe huge amounts of respect and never said a bad word about him or their fight.

                  Please argue with facts, people. That's the problem around here, people often dramatize or make stuff up, and much of the time people simply regurgitate crap they read from some other guy on a forum. Their hatred towards Calzaghe is often born of ignorance.

                  Now watch... I'll get accused of being a "nuthugger" by some ignorant troll, simply because I happen to know a few facts. One thing I know for sure, is that there are many people who have no idea what they are talking about when they speak of Calzaghe. Any little thing, they grab hold of it and blow it completely out of proportion, exaggerating minor details to try and make things seem much worse than they really are. The fact is, Joe Calzaghe is a very good fighter. You may not enjoy his style, and that's your choice, but the guy sure knows how to win and does not deserve the insane amount of disrespect he gets on here. Joe Calzaghe has achieved far more in the last few years than 99% of us on the entire forum could ever hope to achieve in our entire lifetimes, and the general hate towards fighters on this forum is pure gutter-level stuff.
                  I completely agree with you about the Calzaghe hate but some of his trolling fans like the thread starter are a bit much.

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                  • S A M U R A I
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Flawless.
                    Luis Dionisio Barrera
                    Camilo Alarcon


                    2 fights before Calzaghe

                    Calzaghe was preparing for a fight at 168 not 175 like Eubank was
                    OK, I'll give you that, I forgot about the LD Barrera fight, but those fights were what, 6 months apart?

                    You speak as though he was jumping into a different weight class every month!

                    Once again, it all balances out when you consider, age experience, and everything else.



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                      #60
                      Originally posted by JC#1
                      Bernard Hopkins > Jose Luis Castillo
                      Mikkel Kessler > Ricky Hatton
                      Roy Jones Jr > Oscar De La Hoya
                      Chris Eubank > Diego Corrales
                      Jeff Lacy > Zab Judah


                      True
                      False
                      False
                      False
                      False
                      (best you can say about the falses is maybe some of them are roughly equal)

                      But you didnt even pick Floyd's top 5 opponents, and then you fail to mention that Floyd's resume is much deeper in second tier opponents than Calzaghe's.

                      Nice try though

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