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  • Enayze
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    Would a third belt make Wladimir undisputed heavyweight champ

    If Wlad defeats Chagaev/Valuev he not only gets the WBA belt, but he also obtains the Ring Belt.

    Is that enough for him to be the undisputed champ, or does he still need the WBC strap.
    Last edited by Enayze; 12-23-2008, 10:07 PM.
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    As long as VItali is active Wlad will never be considered the best Heavy or undisputed champ. Wladimir is a damn good fighter but Vitali is an absolute beast. Definately the best Heavy in the world MO.

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      #3
      Originally posted by danc1984
      As long as VItali is active Wlad will never be considered the best Heavy or undisputed champ. Wladimir is a damn good fighter but Vitali is an absolute beast. Definately the best Heavy in the world MO.
      Agreed, except I think Wlad is somewhat better. Even then Wlad has no right to call him Heavyweight champion as long as Vitali is fighting.

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        #4
        Originally posted by warp1432
        Agreed, except I think Wlad is somewhat better. Even then Wlad has no right to call him Heavyweight champion as long as Vitali is fighting.
        Based on resume or a hypothetical matchup?

        Looking at what they have achieved then yeah, it is Wlad, but in a hypothetical matchup anyone who favours Wladimir is a bit nuts IMO.

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        • Enayze
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          #5
          Originally posted by warp1432
          Agreed, except I think Wlad is somewhat better. Even then Wlad has no right to call him Heavyweight champion as long as Vitali is fighting.
          Wladimir was clearly the best heavyweight before Vitali came back. And Vitali is about to retire yet again at 37. Consider Vitali retiring, afterwards what will guarantee Wladimir the Undisputed title.
          Last edited by Enayze; 12-23-2008, 10:15 PM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Enayze
            If Wlad defeats Chagaev/Valuev he not only gets the WBA belt, but he also obtains the Ring Belt.

            Is that enough for him to be the undisputed champ, or does he still need the WBC strap.
            If Wlad defeats the winner of Valuev vs. Chagaev, he will be the undisputed champion. Vitali will be retiring after another fight or two.

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            • Silencers
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              A fighter can't be considered undisputed as long as there's another fighter out there holding a major title.

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                #8
                Originally posted by danc1984
                Based on resume or a hypothetical matchup?

                Looking at what they have achieved then yeah, it is Wlad, but in a hypothetical matchup anyone who favours Wladimir is a bit nuts IMO.
                Resume yeah. Vitali is older now and he could be old. Peter put up no fight, so it's hard to judge. Vitali could be a lot worse then we think he is

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                • Enayze
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by warp1432
                  Resume yeah. Vitali is older now and he could be old. Peter put up no fight, so it's hard to judge. Vitali could be a lot worse then we think he is
                  Vitali's speed might have deteriorated somewhat since 03/04, but he still seems to be the same fighter. It was always Vitali's akward style that made him such a force.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    A fighter can't be considered undisputed as long as there's another fighter out there holding a major title.
                    Perhaps not "undisputed" but he can be "universally recognized".

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