Daisuke Naito Stops Yamaguchi, Koki Kameda Next?

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Japanese boxing was crap, is crap and will always be crap! they are worse than european fighters!

Not true. At all.

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1st Upon the opening bell Naito landed a big left hook and Yamaguchi was forced to pull away. Naito successfully took the initiative of combat range, continuing to land a right and left hooks evading Yamaguchi counters. Obviously 10 - 9 for Naito.

2nd Yamaguchi tried to cut in, but Naito's small uppercuts and hooks got in the way. The challenger seemed to be in good shape, but it didn't look like he could take shots, unlike the champion. His chin might not be vulnerable, but not granite enough. Naito's uppercut hit the jaw of Yamaguchi. Not that competitive, but Yamaguchi seemed to be busier. 10 - 9 in favor of Yamaguchi.

3rd The quicker and slicker Naito took control of the action. Yamaguchi was looking for an opportunity to hit Naito's midsection, but couldn't catch up with the champ's speed. Naito ate some jabs, but Yamaguchi didn't land other shots. 10 -9 for Naito.

4th Yamaguchi was determined to break into Naito's range to put up a battle, landing several great shots onto the face of Naito, but Naito responded to the invitation of slugfest and fired back with more accuracy. 10 - 9 for Naito.

The official scorecards were announced and read, 39 - 37, 39-37, and 40 - 36, all in favor of the champion.

5th Yamaguchi once again got himself into gear to fight, but Naito used his feet to retain the momentum he built earlier. Both exchanged shots, but Naito landed more. 10 - 9 for Naito.

6th Yamaguchi threw big punches into thin air. Looked like he totally forgot saying that he would punich the champ with a counter. Confused and frustrated, he didn't seem to cling to his original game plan. Even the number of jabs thrown was decreasing. Clearly 10 - 9 for Naito.

7th The challenger remembered to throw combinations, but the champion was cool enough to avoid getting hit, landing counters of his own and puniched Yamaguchi. A cut was caused on the left eye of Naito. Due to head clash? Taking Naito punches, Yamaguchi seemed to be hurt and slowed down clearly. 10 - 9 for Naito.

8the Acknowledging that only so much was left, Yamaguchi was once again determined to put up a fight and Naito came forward to accept it. Yamaguchi threw big time over and over again and some shot did hit Naito, but the tougher champion capitalized on the opportunity to fire back. The last 30 seconds saw a brutal trade. 10 -9 slightly in favor of Naito.

The scorecareds were announced as 78 -74, 79 - 73, and 79 - 73 all in favor of Naito.

9th Yamaguchi aimed for big shots to turn things around and threw boom boom punches only to hit thin air. Naito seemed to be relaxed to hear that he was leading on points. Using smooth upper body movements, Naito evaded most of Yamaguchi shots, hitting Yamaguchi while wide open to rack up more points. 10 - 9 for Naito.

10th Yamaguchi pursued, Naito boxed circle. At 1'20, Naito landed a big uppercut and hurt the tenacious challenger. Yamaguchi fired back and hit some great shots, but Naito didn't even wobble. Yamaguchi was a busier fighter, but Naito was more accurate, and wobbled Yamaguchi with a big counter right hand. 10- 9 for Naito.

11th Naito moved clockwise and invited Yamaguchi into range. When he came in, Naito landed a left - right - left hand combination and Yamaguchi got hurt badly. He was still on his feet, but Naito chopped him with a double right hand and sent him into the canvas. The challenger barely got up and managed to show his will to fight on. Naito jumped in and Yamaguchi, almost a dead man. exchanged blows in the center of the ring. Yamaguchi showed tremendous guts to push the champion back, but eventually got caught big time, taking a flurry of punches and the referee came between to stop the fight. Yamaguchi seemed to be knocked unconscious at the moment of the closing sequence.


Living in Japan, I want Naito to prove a point that he really deserves the title of world champion. It's true he might look like a Japan Champion, or at least a just another Asian Champion. But let me ask you, how many people said that Israel Vasquez was only a champion of Mexico because he faced his compatriot with his title on the line three times in a row? As far as I rememeber, just a few. Just because Naito hasn't proved himself by beating recognized opposition except for Wongjongkam, doesn't mean that he is a below-average champion. See Calzaghe. He had long been a nobody until he beat the **** out of Lacy. Don't get me wrong. I'm not maintaing that Naito is a Calzaghe equivalent. It's just that this kind of situation is usual in boxing.

There are some people who keep saying the same da*n thing to him:Fight Nonito Donaire. Yeah, that'll be a huge fight. But alas, the blockhead Japanese Comission hasn't recognized the WBO and the IBF, and will not, at least in one of these days or even years. That's truly absurd, but not Naito's fault. Stop taking everything out on him already if you please.

Concerning Naito's next title defense, there is a rumor going around among Japanese fight fans that he is going to face some big name. It appears that his promoter and handlers are trying to postpone the mandatory defense. People are speculating. Some refer to Edgar Sosa. Others talk about Brahim Asloum. I don't believe that Koki Kameda is next. If he had been really willing to fight Naito as he'd said he was, he should have stepped into the ring to fight him last night. Yamaguchi was just a late sub for Kameda.

From what I've heard, Naito is supposed to fight Kratingdaenggym and then JC Miranda, and both will be mandatory. Fighting two consecutive mandatory defenses is unheard of, but not possible. Avoiding fighting foreigners to see to it that the belt won't leave Japan is an abhorrent policy. This must not continue forever, by any means.

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[giacomino]

1st Upon the opening bell Naito landed a big left hook and Yamaguchi was forced to pull away. Naito successfully took the initiative of combat range, continuing to land a right and left hooks evading Yamaguchi counters. Obviously 10 - 9 for Naito.

2nd Yamaguchi tried to cut in, but Naito's small uppercuts and hooks got in the way. The challenger seemed to be in good shape, but it didn't look like he could take shots, unlike the champion. His chin might not be vulnerable, but not granite enough. Naito's uppercut hit the jaw of Yamaguchi. Not that competitive, but Yamaguchi seemed to be busier. 10 - 9 in favor of Yamaguchi.

3rd The quicker and slicker Naito took control of the action. Yamaguchi was looking for an opportunity to hit Naito's midsection, but couldn't catch up with the champ's speed. Naito ate some jabs, but Yamaguchi didn't land other shots. 10 -9 for Naito.

4th Yamaguchi was determined to break into Naito's range to put up a battle, landing several great shots onto the face of Naito, but Naito responded to the invitation of slugfest and fired back with more accuracy. 10 - 9 for Naito.

The official scorecards were announced and read, 39 - 37, 39-37, and 40 - 36, all in favor of the champion.

5th Yamaguchi once again got himself into gear to fight, but Naito used his feet to retain the momentum he built earlier. Both exchanged shots, but Naito landed more. 10 - 9 for Naito.

6th Yamaguchi threw big punches into thin air. Looked like he totally forgot saying that he would punich the champ with a counter. Confused and frustrated, he didn't seem to cling to his original game plan. Even the number of jabs thrown was decreasing. Clearly 10 - 9 for Naito.

7th The challenger remembered to throw combinations, but the champion was cool enough to avoid getting hit, landing counters of his own and puniched Yamaguchi. A cut was caused on the left eye of Naito. Due to head clash? Taking Naito punches, Yamaguchi seemed to be hurt and slowed down clearly. 10 - 9 for Naito.

8the Acknowledging that only so much was left, Yamaguchi was once again determined to put up a fight and Naito came forward to accept it. Yamaguchi threw big time over and over again and some shot did hit Naito, but the tougher champion capitalized on the opportunity to fire back. The last 30 seconds saw a brutal trade. 10 -9 slightly in favor of Naito.

The scorecareds were announced as 78 -74, 79 - 73, and 79 - 73 all in favor of Naito.

9th Yamaguchi aimed for big shots to turn things around and threw boom boom punches only to hit thin air. Naito seemed to be relaxed to hear that he was leading on points. Using smooth upper body movements, Naito evaded most of Yamaguchi shots, hitting Yamaguchi while wide open to rack up more points. 10 - 9 for Naito.

10th Yamaguchi pursued, Naito boxed circle. At 1'20, Naito landed a big uppercut and hurt the tenacious challenger. Yamaguchi fired back and hit some great shots, but Naito didn't even wobble. Yamaguchi was a busier fighter, but Naito was more accurate, and wobbled Yamaguchi with a big counter right hand. 10- 9 for Naito.

11th Naito moved clockwise and invited Yamaguchi into range. When he came in, Naito landed a left - right - left hand combination and Yamaguchi got hurt badly. He was still on his feet, but Naito chopped him with a double right hand and sent him into the canvas. The challenger barely got up and managed to show his will to fight on. Naito jumped in and Yamaguchi, almost a dead man. exchanged blows in the center of the ring. Yamaguchi showed tremendous guts to push the champion back, but eventually got caught big time, taking a flurry of punches and the referee came between to stop the fight. Yamaguchi seemed to be knocked unconscious at the moment of the closing sequence.


Living in Japan, I want Naito to prove a point that he really deserves the title of world champion. It's true he might look like a Japan Champion, or at least a just another Asian Champion. But let me ask you, how many people said that Israel Vasquez was only a champion of Mexico because he faced his compatriot with his title on the line three times in a row? As far as I rememeber, just a few. Just because Naito hasn't proved himself by beating recognized opposition except for Wongjongkam, doesn't mean that he is a below-average champion. See Calzaghe. He had long been a nobody until he beat the **** out of Lacy. Don't get me wrong. I'm not maintaing that Naito is a Calzaghe equivalent. It's just that this kind of situation is usual in boxing.

There are some people who keep saying the same da*n thing to him:Fight Nonito Donaire. Yeah, that'll be a huge fight. But alas, the blockhead Japanese Comission hasn't recognized the WBO and the IBF, and will not, at least in one of these days or even years. That's truly absurd, but not Naito's fault. Stop taking everything out on him already if you please.

Concerning Naito's next title defense, there is a rumor going around among Japanese fight fans that he is going to face some big name. It appears that his promoter and handlers are trying to postpone the mandatory defense. People are speculating. Some refer to Edgar Sosa. Others talk about Brahim Asloum. I don't believe that Koki Kameda is next. If he had been really willing to fight Naito as he'd said he was, he should have stepped into the ring to fight him last night. Yamaguchi was just a late sub for Kameda.

From what I've heard, Naito is supposed to fight Kratingdaenggym and then JC Miranda, and both will be mandatory. Fighting two consecutive mandatory defenses is unheard of, but not possible. Avoiding fighting foreigners to see to it that the belt won't leave Japan is an abhorrent policy. This must not continue forever, by any means.

1. Yamaguchi was a ludicrous defense. He had a crappy record AND had just lost a title fight to Sakata.
2. Wonjongkam was vastly overrated when he was champion and was shot by the time Naito beat him
3. Kratingdaenggym has beaten NOBODY worth **** to deserve being a mandatory, so Naito should beat him easily. It is absolutely ****** that Kratingdaenggym is ranked #1.
4. You mention Asloum as a "big name." Narvaez, the WBO champ, knocked him out two years ago in a title defense, and Narvaez is often criticized on these websites for fighting weak opposition. Narvaez would beat Naito with ease, but the fight will of course never happen because the JBC would never let Naito fight another champion.
5. Comparing Vasquez fighting Marquez (Vasquez fighting his compatriots) with Naito fighting second-rate Japanese opposition like Yamaguchi and Shimizu is just plain silly.

[SalSanchez]

What a joke, Fight Nonito.

I agree that he should fight Nonito but Nonito doesn't bring any money to the table unlike Koki.

[El Jesus]

Using that logic, all the Germany-based champions like Erdei and Sturm should stay in Germany and continue to fight mediocre opposition because they can make good money fighting easy defenses and not risk actually unifying a title or fighting a meaningful opponent. If that is what Naito wants to do, fine. Doesn't mean they aren't bull**** defenses.

The difference is, those guys arent under a body like the JBC. First of all, there is no demand for those guys to fight here, second of all, very few promoters would even care to do a purse bid for those fighters to even make the trip here and accomodate them, whens the last time you saw a japanese fighter on US TV?

Germany based opposition is different, they actually have the proper belts sanctioned in their country with mandatories that would fit the bill for a fight people would care about, in japan its a little different. Fact is, some of those japanese fighters are actually credible, and frankly, unlike guys like mundine and the rest, these guys arent giving 100 media interviews of them telling us how great they are.

[giacomino]

The difference is, those guys arent under a body like the JBC. First of all, there is no demand for those guys to fight here, second of all, very few promoters would even care to do a purse bid for those fighters to even make the trip here and accomodate them, whens the last time you saw a japanese fighter on US TV?

Germany based opposition is different, they actually have the proper belts sanctioned in their country with mandatories that would fit the bill for a fight people would care about, in japan its a little different. Fact is, some of those japanese fighters are actually credible, and frankly, unlike guys like mundine and the rest, these guys arent giving 100 media interviews of them telling us how great they are.

Some of the belts the Germans hold are the same ones held by the Japanese at different weight classes. (Sturm-Sakata, for instance). Some of the Germans hold belts that don't ever require mandatories (Erdei hasn't fought a mandatory in more than two years and is fighting another easy defense early in 2009).
I understand your point about the Japanese fighters, but Kameda has been willing to come to Mexico to fight. Sakata fought Vasquez for his title in France. It's not unthinkable that promoters would pay to get Naito to say, Mexico, to fight Solis or Sosa or to Argentina to fight Narvaez. My point wasn't necessarily that the Japanese champions never travel (although they seldom do), it's that Naito fights a lot of crappy opposition. Let him fight Miranda, a Sosa or even a Rayonta Whitfield in Japan and I will be giving him props for being willing to take on a good opponent.