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  • #71
    Originally posted by Brandish View Post
    1. sharmba mitchell --ring ranking *9

    2. zab Judah IBF champ --ring ranking #2

    3. Carlos baldomir ring/lineal WBC champ

    margarito lost to paul williams and cotto lost to marg, come again **** face what have marg and cotto doen at 147
    Yeah, real good IBF champ Zab was coming off of a loss to Baldomir where the only reason he didn't lose his title is 'cause Baldo didn't pay the sanctioning fee.

    Margarito has fought more top-10 ranked welterweights than any other currently active 147 lb. fighter. So those three names you listed don't really mean ****.

    Your turn dumb****.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by adrsan84 View Post
      I see your point Dominicano, and just as Jordan left too early, so too Floyd. But unlike Jordan, Floyd could have done more to seal his legacy. Did a lot in his career no taking that away, but he could have done more, whether it was because of fear or just not being motivated is another question, but he certainly could have done more at welterweight.
      I understand but it isn't fear. That is for sure...I'd like to see a unification at 147...Maybe Floyd will face the best WW then

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Brandish View Post
        1. sharmba mitchell --ring ranking *9

        2. zab Judah IBF champ --ring ranking #2

        3. Carlos baldomir ring/lineal WBC champ

        margarito lost to paul williams and cotto lost to marg, come again **** face what have marg and cotto doen at 147

        Carlos Baldomir has lost 3 fights in a row since losing to Floyd and wasn't even in the top 15 before Judah.

        Judah has lost 4 of his last 5 fights.

        Mitchell Bwahahahahahahaha is he even boxing right now.


        Most Prospects have better compatition then that.

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        • #74

          Margarito ( What is the upside???)


          What does Margarito win do for a fighters career??
          In 2006


          Margarito was unknown and 1 of 3 Champions in the welterweight division with 4 Loses and No Name recognition

          His Best Win: Kermit Cintron and Joshua Clottey (Who Baldomir Beat)

          In 2007

          Margarito through great press and hanging on Floyd's coattails was considered the most feared man in boxing. and was 1 of 3 Champions in the welterweight division.

          He Lost to Paul Williams in convincing fashion, as a result smashing all chances at his upcoming October fight with Miguel Cotto.

          (Miguel Cotto wouldnt even fight Margarito in 2007)

          Margarito
          is now considered another top 10 fighter in the welterweight division.

          Margarito has risen his Name recognition from 2006

          His Best Win: Golden Johnson

          In 2008

          Margarito beats up Kermit Cintron again, and through the grace of Bob Arum gets Miguel Cotto to give him chance...

          Margarito Beats up Miguel Cotto.

          And Now he is considered the man to beat at Welter Weight...

          ONE PROBLEM: Paul Williams

          Margarito Turns down 4 Million Dollars to fight Paul Williams and Instead
          Fights for Shane Mosley for 2 Million

          Once Again Margarito has risen his Name recognition from 2007

          His Best Win: Miguel Cotto and Kermit Cintron



          So after Looking at all of this what does Margarito do for Mayweather Legacy considering That Mayweather is only looking for big fights and legacy enhancing fights ?????
          • Does it make Mayweather The best All time?
          • Mayweather is already consider the best of his era
          • Mayweather was already p4p # 1 in the sport
          • Mayweather is already going into the Hall of Fame



          Margarito = No Money
          .
          HBO is not going to pay 20-35 Million for a Margarito Fight

          example: Making 2 Million for the Mosley Fight
          Floyd was making 3 million fighting Henry Bruseles.

          Margarito = Limited Name recognition
          Margarito fan base is very small
          Margarito has not separated himself from the rest....

          Ask yourself a question?
          • How is Miguel Cotto vs. Micheal Jenning a P.P.V event!!!

          But
          • Margarito vs. Shane Mosely IS NOT??????

          • How is Manny Pacquaio vs.David Diaz a P.P.V event

          But
          • Margarito vs. Shane Mosely IS NOT??????


          IRONY

          Why shouldnt Floyd fight Paul Williams before he fights Margarito
          if he wants to fight a somebody for free basically?????

          Paul Williams beat Margarito and Margarito is scared of Williams...
          So If Floyd is going to fight for free why not The Man Margarito is scared of...

          Paul Williams....

          You Margarito fans are demanding Floyd fight Margarito
          but why should he...??

          NOBODY WANTS TO SEE IT..!!! IF PEOPLE want to see Margarito fight Big name fighters.....


          Margarito would be headlining P.P.V's bouts on his own!!!

          They is no reason why Margarito vs. Shane Mosely should not be on P.P.V.!!!!



          if the fans and boxing REALLY WANT TO SEE MARGARITO FIGHT a big name fighter...!!! he would be Headling P.P.V's by now.



          NOBODY GIVE A **** ABOUT MARGARITO BUT HIS FANS PERIOD.

          AND HIS FANS ARE SO SMALL, THAT HE CANT EVEN HEADLINE HIS OWN P.P.V CARD..!!!
          VS. A Hall of fame fighter....





          This is the reality.

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          • #75
            Team Mayweather we want JMM and Pacman

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            • #76
              After Margarito lost to Williams, these forums were like he is a bum and not that good. Same thing will happen to Mayweather but worse

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              • #77
                Yeah, real good IBF champ Zab was coming off of a loss to Baldomir where the only reason he didn't lose his title is 'cause Baldo didn't pay the sanctioning fee.

                Margarito has fought more top-10 ranked welterweights than any other currently active 147 lb. fighter. So those three names you listed don't really mean ****.

                Your turn dumb
                ehat those names mean is that floyd retired the 147 lineal ring champ. he retired as the one true chamkp at 147. margo is what again

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                • #78
                  Team Mayweather we want JMM and Pacman
                  yep those are the fights I want to see. marquez a 3 weight champ pac a 4 weight champ margo a trinket champ at 147 only no margo fight until he steps up and unifies 147. first pac for lfoyd then marquez if he can beat diaz

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Brandish View Post
                    ehat those names mean is that floyd retired the 147 lineal ring champ. he retired as the one true chamkp at 147. margo is what again
                    He won the Ring and WBC belts by beating Carlos Baldomir, who barely beat an unfocused overrated Zab Judah...who on a normal night would've destroyed Baldomir. Notice how Baldomir's camp never said a word about giving Zab a rematch.

                    Then what? Carlos beat Arturo Gatti...who Floyd had already beaten at 140. What a monster Floyd beat in Baldomir!!!

                    How anyone who even somewhat follows boxing truly considered Baldomir the best welterweight in the world at the time is ridiculous.

                    Plain and simple, Floyd NEVER proved to be the best the 147 pounder in the world. Not when there was so many tough challengers hanging around that he never wanted any part of. He proved he was the best at 130 and 135...but never at 140 and 147.

                    Like I said before, following Floyd's path and your logic, Margarito is indeed the man at 147. Stop bringing up the legacy bull**** 'cause everyone knows Floyd could care less about that. It's all about the money and not about beating the best opposition for him.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Horus View Post

                      Margarito ( What is the upside???)


                      What does Margarito win do for a fighters career??
                      In 2006


                      Margarito was unknown and 1 of 3 Champions in the welterweight division with 4 Loses and No Name recognition

                      His Best Win: Kermit Cintron and Joshua Clottey (Who Baldomir Beat)

                      In 2007

                      Margarito through great press and hanging on Floyd's coattails was considered the most feared man in boxing. and was 1 of 3 Champions in the welterweight division.

                      He Lost to Paul Williams in convincing fashion, as a result smashing all chances at his upcoming October fight with Miguel Cotto.

                      (Miguel Cotto wouldnt even fight Margarito in 2007)

                      Margarito
                      is now considered another top 10 fighter in the welterweight division.

                      Margarito has risen his Name recognition from 2006

                      His Best Win: Golden Johnson

                      In 2008

                      Margarito beats up Kermit Cintron again, and through the grace of Bob Arum gets Miguel Cotto to give him chance...

                      Margarito Beats up Miguel Cotto.

                      And Now he is considered the man to beat at Welter Weight...

                      ONE PROBLEM: Paul Williams

                      Margarito Turns down 4 Million Dollars to fight Paul Williams and Instead
                      Fights for Shane Mosley for 2 Million

                      Once Again Margarito has risen his Name recognition from 2007

                      His Best Win: Miguel Cotto and Kermit Cintron



                      So after Looking at all of this what does Margarito do for Mayweather Legacy considering That Mayweather is only looking for big fights and legacy enhancing fights ?????
                      • Does it make Mayweather The best All time?
                      • Mayweather is already consider the best of his era
                      • Mayweather was already p4p # 1 in the sport
                      • Mayweather is already going into the Hall of Fame



                      Margarito = No Money
                      .
                      HBO is not going to pay 20-35 Million for a Margarito Fight

                      example: Making 2 Million for the Mosley Fight
                      Floyd was making 3 million fighting Henry Bruseles.

                      Margarito = Limited Name recognition
                      Margarito fan base is very small
                      Margarito has not separated himself from the rest....

                      Ask yourself a question?
                      • How is Miguel Cotto vs. Micheal Jenning a P.P.V event!!!

                      But
                      • Margarito vs. Shane Mosely IS NOT??????

                      • How is Manny Pacquaio vs.David Diaz a P.P.V event

                      But
                      • Margarito vs. Shane Mosely IS NOT??????


                      IRONY

                      Why shouldnt Floyd fight Paul Williams before he fights Margarito
                      if he wants to fight a somebody for free basically?????

                      Paul Williams beat Margarito and Margarito is scared of Williams...
                      So If Floyd is going to fight for free why not The Man Margarito is scared of...

                      Paul Williams....

                      You Margarito fans are demanding Floyd fight Margarito
                      but why should he...??

                      NOBODY WANTS TO SEE IT..!!! IF PEOPLE want to see Margarito fight Big name fighters.....


                      Margarito would be headlining P.P.V's bouts on his own!!!

                      They is no reason why Margarito vs. Shane Mosely should not be on P.P.V.!!!!



                      if the fans and boxing REALLY WANT TO SEE MARGARITO FIGHT a big name fighter...!!! he would be Headling P.P.V's by now.



                      NOBODY GIVE A **** ABOUT MARGARITO BUT HIS FANS PERIOD.

                      AND HIS FANS ARE SO SMALL, THAT HE CANT EVEN HEADLINE HIS OWN P.P.V CARD..!!!
                      VS. A Hall of fame fighter....





                      This is the reality.


                      I like how this article fails to mention that Baldomir beat Clottey on a DQ and Clottey was well ahead on all cards.

                      P. Williams lost to Carlos Quintana in his first defense who was demolished by Cotto which destroys the whole triangle theory.

                      And margarito had a very long reign as WBO Champ and is the only fighter to this day to give P. Williams a real shot at stardom and respect in his division.

                      This is far from reality and closer to propaghanda!!!!

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