Roy Jones vs. Calzaghe: All time

[S A M U R A I]

I voted for neither.



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[RichCCFC]

Roy Jones Jr. wasted his potential by not fighting great fighters after James Toney.

But his resume still ****s all over Joe Calzaghe's.

We know who voted for Calzaghe anyway. Tunney (about 10 times) under WLAD OWNS, Steelhammer, CanadaJoe, whatever the **** he goes by these days. The others are probably medium deek, ricky, the usual joke posters.

Can we just go ahead and call Lacy the man at 168?

[bsrizpac]

Can we just go ahead and call Lacy the man at 168?

Fair point.

How about

Hatton TKO Mayweather Round 10.


Well, at least you got the round right.

[daggum]

lets take a look at how many of the top ten rated by the ring magazine these fighters fought during their reign at the top of their respective weight divisions

ROY JONES-light heavy

1996-5
1997-no data
1998-6
1999-6
2000-6
2001-8
2002-7
2003-7

JOE CALZAGHE-super middle

1997-no data
1998-3
1999-4
2000-2
2001-2
2002-2
2003-3
2004-3
2005-3
2006-3

well there you have it. roy jones fought on average 6 to 7 of the top ten while calzaghe fought 2 to 3. while at light heavy roy jones only fought 1 fighter who was never in the top ten at any point and that was glen kelly.

calzaghe fought 13. branko sobot, juan carlos giminez ferrera, rick thornberry, david starie, omar sheika, mario veit, will mcyintre, miguel angel jiminez, tocker pudwill, mger mtchkian, kabary salem, mario veit again, evans ashira.

that's 13 fighters who never made it into the top 10. can you believe manfredo actually was in the top 10 so he doesn't make the list. i would call that a waste of a career against overmatched opponents. i'm sure the excuse is gonna be the ring is biased against euros so have at it hoss.

[bsrizpac]

Quite a few of those are very early fights, Briz. Sure, they're not exactly great competition, but most resumes have a good amount of filler on them.

Marvin Hagler, for example. For his 45th pro fight (1978) fought Willie Warren, a guy with 38 losses. A year before that, he fought a guy with 27 losses.

Joe's 45th fight was Bernard Hopkins.

Hagler is no less great for it. Nobody brings up Cocoa Kid, Matt Donovan, Bobby Williams and Joey Blair when discussing Hagler.

Kris is right, btw. Richie Woodhall was actually a solid fighter. Joe demolished him over 10 rounds. It's not a bad win by any means.

BTW, Woodhall and Calzaghe were good friends at the time (still are, no doubt).

Many posters try to claim that Joe Calzaghe is not "prime". Fair enough.

They also say he was in his prime somewhere around 1998-2003/4. Would you like me to post the fights he had then?

It's not much different.

[bsrizpac]

lets take a look at how many of the top ten rated by the ring magazine these fighters fought during their reign at the top of their respective weight divisions

ROY JONES-light heavy

1996-5
1997-no data
1998-6
1999-6
2000-6
2001-8
2002-7
2003-7

JOE CALZAGHE-super middle

1997-no data
1998-3
1999-4
2000-2
2001-2
2002-2
2003-3
2004-3
2005-3
2006-3

well there you have it. roy jones fought on average 6 to 7 of the top ten while calzaghe fought 2 to 3. while at light heavy roy jones only fought 1 fighter who was never in the top ten at any point and that was glen kelly.

calzaghe fought 13. branko sobot, juan carlos giminez ferrera, rick thornberry, david starie, omar sheika, mario veit, will mcyintre, miguel angel jiminez, tocker pudwill, mger mtchkian, kabary salem, mario veit again, evans ashira.

that's 13 fighters who never made it into the top 10. can you believe manfredo actually was in the top 10 so he doesn't make the list. i would call that a waste of a career against overmatched opponents. i'm sure the excuse is gonna be the ring is biased against euros so have at it hoss.

The truth is ugly but there it is.

Also Manfredo was there because SMW has always been a thin thin shabby/****ty/average division. Not too hard to break into it's top 10.

[daggum]

The truth is ugly but there it is.

Also Manfredo was there because SMW has always been a thin thin shabby/****ty/average division. Not too hard to break into it's top 10.

sure calzaghe had 21 title defenses but 13 of those guys werent ranked in the top 10 ever in their lives. this is very pathetic. hopkins had 20 title defenses and only 5 of his weren't ranked in the top 10 at middle and 2 of those were glen johnson and simon brown. everyone knows who glen johnson is and simon brown was the number 1 154 pounder at one time.

[Dan...]

Roy Jones was a better fighter but Calzaghe will be remembered as a higher ATG. I really believe Jones ruined himself when he got stopped twice in a row, which great fighter has ever lost by 2 KOs in a row? While Calzaghe retired undefeated.

EDIT.

And I say Roy Jones was a better fighter, it doesn't mean he would beat Calzaghe Prime for Prime, Calzaghe has all the tools to beat Roy. Styles make fights.

Truly ******ed post.

The answer to this question is Roy JOnes every day of the week. If you voted for Joe and were being serious, don't watch boxing, it ain't the sport for you.

[Dan...]

lets take a look at how many of the top ten rated by the ring magazine these fighters fought during their reign at the top of their respective weight divisions

ROY JONES-light heavy

1996-5
1997-no data
1998-6
1999-6
2000-6
2001-8
2002-7
2003-7

JOE CALZAGHE-super middle

1997-no data
1998-3
1999-4
2000-2
2001-2
2002-2
2003-3
2004-3
2005-3
2006-3

well there you have it. roy jones fought on average 6 to 7 of the top ten while calzaghe fought 2 to 3. while at light heavy roy jones only fought 1 fighter who was never in the top ten at any point and that was glen kelly.

calzaghe fought 13. branko sobot, juan carlos giminez ferrera, rick thornberry, david starie, omar sheika, mario veit, will mcyintre, miguel angel jiminez, tocker pudwill, mger mtchkian, kabary salem, mario veit again, evans ashira.

that's 13 fighters who never made it into the top 10. can you believe manfredo actually was in the top 10 so he doesn't make the list. i would call that a waste of a career against overmatched opponents. i'm sure the excuse is gonna be the ring is biased against euros so have at it hoss.

Holy ****.

Did you just make a contribution to a thread that wasn't a sarcastic throw-away comment?

[bsrizpac]

Holy ****.

Did you just make a contribution to a thread that wasn't a sarcastic throw-away comment?

I know, that was some solid research.