Roy Jones vs. Calzaghe: All time

[bsrizpac]

LOL. Damn, talk about nitpicking!

Several / a few / some. "Several" does not imply much more than twice. ****, maybe I could have worded it better but why would I imply anything? We all know how many times he got knocked out. Dude got knocked senseless by Johnson (not even a seriously big hitter) and Tarver.

Anyway, you know what I was saying.

Jones is the one with the worse chin of the two. If he was up against a guy with a granite chin (or an unstoppable heart, if you prefer that) who throws endless amounts of punches and who had more power back in the day, how the hell do you know that he wouldn't be KO'd by Joe Calzaghe?

See, this ain't even a nuhugger post, I'm just talking sense and trying not to be biased one way or the other. We can all sit here and say "this is what would happen, there's no doubt that Roy would knock Joe out in round 6 / 8 / take your pick", but the fact is nobody ****ing knows! They only go on what they THINK they know and what they WOULD LIKE to happen because they hate Joe Calzaghe. It's really pathetic.

Again, I ask you, if it would be so easy for Jones to KO Calzaghe, why didn't he do it? You can laugh all you want, talk about pay cuts, blah blah. As far as I know there were fights that fell through between Calzaghe and Jones a long time ago when both were prime. This is coming from Frank Warren in the documentary "No Average Joe", because apparently Jones wanted nothing to do with him. Bear in mind, I am not stating that this is an absolute fact, I am going solely on the information coming out of Warren's mouth, on camera, in that documentary. Jones has said nothing about it, just like Hopkins has said nothing about the fight he backed out of in 2002. So what do we have to go on apart from what's been said?

Here's the documentary if you are interested at all.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=219531

Warren has also gone on record and said Calzaghe had little confidence in himself and tried to pull out of many of his bigger fights and had to be goaded into fighting them.

Just saying.

[_Hunter_]

Warren has also gone on record and said Calzaghe had little confidence in himself and tried to pull out of many of his bigger fights and had to be goaded into fighting them.

Just saying.

Frank warren talks ****

[S A M U R A I]

My take on this, btw: It wouldn't be easy for either of them. Both would give the other a damn competitive fight and I have no idea of the outcome. I'm a fan of both. I just hate when people exaggerate and say it would be easy. Bull****.



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[Testdead]

Warren has also gone on record and said Calzaghe had little confidence in himself and tried to pull out of many of his bigger fights and had to be goaded into fighting them.

Just saying.

Bull****. Calzaghe seeked out Lacy,Kessler,Hopkins,Jones.

[Benny Leonard]

LOL. Damn, talk about nitpicking!

Several / a few / some. "Several" does not imply much more than twice. Shuit, maybe I could have worded it better but why would I imply anything? We all know how many times he got knocked out. Dude got knocked senseless by Johnson (not even a seriously big hitter) and Tarver.

Anyway, you know what I was saying.

Jones is the one with the worse chin of the two. If he was up against a guy with a granite chin (or an unstoppable heart, if you prefer that) who throws endless amounts of punches and who had more power back in the day, how the hell do you know that he wouldn't be KO'd by Joe Calzaghe?

See, this ain't even a nuhugger post, I'm just talking sense and trying not to be biased one way or the other. We can all sit here and say "this is what would happen, there's no doubt that Roy would knock Joe out in round 6 / 8 / take your pick", but the fact is nobody ****ing knows! They only go on what they THINK they know and what they WOULD LIKE to happen because they hate Joe Calzaghe. It's really pathetic.

Again, I ask you, if it would be so easy for Jones to KO Calzaghe, why didn't he do it? As far as I know there were fights that fell through between Calzaghe and Jones a long time ago when both were prime. This is coming from Frank Warren in the documentary "No Average Joe", because apparently Jones wanted nothing to do with him. Bear in mind, I am not stating that this is an absolute fact, I am going solely on the information coming out of Warren's mouth, on camera, in that documentary. Jones has said nothing about it, just like Hopkins has said nothing about the fight he backed out of in 2002. So what do we have to go on apart from what's been said?

Here's the documentary if you are interested at all.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=219531

I'm not even sure Roy knows where Wales was, let alone who Joe was back then. Many notable American boxing people have even stated that few Americans knew Calzaghe before the Lacey fight.

Then it gets hard to make a fight when one fighter is fighting at 168 in Europe and the other at 175 in the States.

Quotes from Frank:

"At the time the other champions were in Germany, Markus Beyer and Sven Otkke and they weren't coming out of there as their records show and Jones was a light-heavyweight. I made big offers to both the Germans and they wouldn't do a deal," said Warren."

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/other-sports/boxing/how-calzaghe-and-warren-ruled-world-14113897.html

And:

"Frank Warren Responds; Tells All On Joe Calzaghe

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=16188

[S A M U R A I]

Warren has also gone on record and said Calzaghe had little confidence in himself and tried to pull out of many of his bigger fights and had to be goaded into fighting them.

Just saying.

I know, and maybe that's true, but then you have Jones who didn't fight who he should have either. Refusing to fight Michalczewski for less than 24 or 25 million, for example.

Neither of them are angels.



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[Testdead]

Roys lack of workrate would cost him dear against Mr Calzone.

prime for prime i think Joe stops Roy.

[Benny Leonard]

My take on this, btw: It wouldn't be easy for either of them. Both would give the other a damn competitive fight and I have no idea of the outcome. I'm a fan of both. I just hate when people exaggerate and say it would be easy. Bull****.

Not an easy fight at all. It would have been a competitive fight. Jones at 168 vs. Joe at 168, Prime vs. Prime, would make me favor Roy more than his LH days.

[Abstraction]

I'm sorry, but whoever voted Calzaghe is obviously an idiot. I'm a Brit, and im assuming it's other Brits who voted Calzaghe. Sorry fellow Brits, the guy is talented, but is probably the biggest fraud in Boxing. Never have i seen someone waste so much talent that this guy. Warren can only get so much blame, Calzaghe needs to take the rest.

I also find it amusing and cringing how bitter Calzaghe has become, especially judging on his recent interviews. If he does not recieve enough 'credit', it's because he simply does not deserve it.

Damb Hatton deserves more respect, atleast he went Prime v Prime against a Boxing Legend (Mayweather). He got KTFO mind, but atleast he went for it.

I hadly call Surviving against a 43 year old, and beat a Washed up 40 Year old Champion something special. I know Brits find it hard to find a Boxer with a 'good legacy', but Calzaghe is pathetic.

[Ishy Aytan]

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You should be proud.

haha.... ur another clown that actually thinks Calzaghe stands a chance against Jones prime vs prime. Who the hell has Calzaghe faced in his prime? Because now he's saying he dont want a Dawson fight because he's getting old.

Look at the guys Calzaghe's faced.... some of his fights have been so one sided, and thats a testament to the low level of opposition he's faced.

The two guys that i believe beat him, Hopkins and Reid, he never gave a rematch too. All great fighters give rematches to those that questionably beat them... But he has'nt.

How many champs or previous champs has he faced? People look at his record and think he's the best fighter ever, or the best fighter to come out of the U.K. Believe me he's not. Records are decieving, please i urge you guys to break down his record and look at the opponents he's beaten.

Fact is he could'nt knockout an old Jones Jr who was fighting with one eye, what makes you guys think he could KO him in his prime.?