Does Holyfield show the drop in heavyweight quality?

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    #11
    Originally posted by Tunney
    No. Valuev sucks, but there are plenty of talented heavyweights: Vitali, Wlad, Povetkin, Haye, etc.
    I wanted to say to you I liked Wlad's intentions last fight. It was like the old Wlad.

    He was still somewhat cautious but he was going in there wanting the ko.

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    • Dynamite Kid
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      #12
      Originally posted by Tunney
      No. Valuev sucks, but there are plenty of talented heavyweights: Vitali, Wlad, Povetkin, Haye, etc.
      Wlad,Vitali=bums

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      • SickmyDuck
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
        Wlad,Vitali=bums
        Aids Haye is going to get sparked by the Vitali "bum"

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        • larryx
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          #14
          Originally posted by dynamite kid
          wlad,vitali=bums
          those are some damn good bums then!!!!!!! Hate em all you want but they run the divivsion

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          • The_Visitation
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            #15
            Originally posted by Tunney
            No. Valuev sucks, but there are plenty of talented heavyweights: Vitali, Wlad, Povetkin, Haye, etc.

            I agree 100%. The fight said an awful lot about Valuev, but you can't extend that to the division.

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            • Joeyzagz
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              #16
              Ive been aware of the drop in quality since 2003.

              In boxing history, the younger challenger from the next generation usually beats the older champion from the previous generation.

              Gene Tunney beat an older Jack Dempsey
              Marciano KO'd an older Joe Louis
              Larry Holmes devastated an older Muhammad Ali
              Mike Tyson chopped an older Larry Holmes

              But Vitali Klitscko was not able to carry on this tradition and was outfoxed by the older, slower, shorter fighter. Vitalis best failed to live up to Lennox's worst and that set the tempo for how the rest of this horrible decade was to play out.

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              • Brockton Lip
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                #17
                Some posters think that size and modern day fighters can beat all of the fighters from before the 60's, its pretty ridiculous.

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                • DiegoFuego
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                  #18
                  Heavyweight boxing is a complete joke. Vitali is the only one who's worth a damn. The rest get murdered in any other era including the Tyson 80's

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                  • wulff.man
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                    #19
                    The heavyweight scene has never been better. Check the records of the current champs! None of your Don King idols really come close to the current champions.

                    The current heavies are the most exciting fighters I've ever seen!
                    (Except maybe for Dempsey & Marciano)


                    There are so many more people from around the globe now competing, so it truly is representative of who is "the best of the best" ON THE PLANET. Why do some of you think that it is better when competition is only limited to whom Don King chooses?

                    You euro-haters are so fuggin obvious!

                    It funny as hell to read how you babies make excuses for your mass-marketed idols getting whooped. Don King ain't running the circus anymore girls, and y'all are going to have to realize that this is now a truly global competition.

                    Keep the laughs rolling!
                    Carry on euro-haters!

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                    • Silencers
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                      #20
                      The heavyweight division is really bad right now, we didn't need Holyfield to prove it.

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