As far as talent goes : Cotto is still the best at 147lbs

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  • krispy kreme
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    #31
    Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44
    its starting to become comical how people continually refer to margarito as a C level fighter

    the guy isnt the most skilled but his monstrous stamina, chin and workrate are second to none

    C level guys dont beat a fighter the calibre of miguel cotto, having great skills isnt the only thing which qualifies you as a great fighter
    I read that and said the same exact thing. Margarito's skills aren't up there, but he mixes his punches well and never stops coming forward. If he was just C level, he would have never made it this far. Yes he has losses, but what does that have to do with it? Undefeated records are too appreciated here.

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    • Anto
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      #32
      Remember Cotto was winning the fight till round 10, his problem was the nose, he could not fight well because of the blood running. Margarito lost 10 rounds, this time Cotto will outboxe him again, and will not make the mistake of going to the ropes the way Evangelista told him not to do it.

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      • savorduhflavor
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        #33
        Originally posted by Anto
        Remember Cotto was winning the fight till round 10, his problem was the nose, he could not fight well because of the blood running. Margarito lost 10 rounds, this time Cotto will outboxe him again, and will not make the mistake of going to the ropes the way Evangelista told him not to do it.
        Dude Tony didn't lose 10 rounds. After 10 two judges actually had him up 96-94 and one had it a draw at 95-95. Some of those later rounds were hard to score cause Tony was applying the pressure but Cotto was landing a lot of clean punches, but it was in no way as one sided as your saying.

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        • SickmyDuck
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          #34
          Originally posted by Brandish
          let's see cotto beat a c-level figther in margarito first
          what does that make Baldomir and Gatti?

          Floyd`s legacy is greater than Durans.

          Floyd fanboys always amusing

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          • machotime
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            #35
            Originally posted by Brandish
            let's see cotto beat a c-level figther in margarito first
            you thinking Margarito is a C-level fighter show's your ignorance. Floyd's win over DLH recently became insignificant as Pacman shut him out.... something FLoyd couldnt do.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Anto
              Remember Cotto was winning the fight till round 10, his problem was the nose, he could not fight well because of the blood running. Margarito lost 10 rounds, this time Cotto will outboxe him again, and will not make the mistake of going to the ropes the way Evangelista told him not to do it.
              sorry, i stop reading after that...why do people lie to themselves? margo was winning on the cards leading into the 11th. cotto was not winning...he looked great early(who doesn't against margo), about the six and seventh round(also lets not forget the second round where cotto just got smashed, and then landed something big at the end of that round, after being smashed the whole round), the whole fight turned...so NO! cotto was not winning up until the tenth...

              you know what? maybe he was...but who cares?!?! does that change the outcome?

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              • machotime
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                #37
                Originally posted by Brandish
                let's see cotto beat a c-level figther in margarito first
                Considering that you think Marg is a C-level fighter, I guess you have to consider that Floyd was fighting F-level fighters in Baldomir, Judah, Gatti, Shramba etc...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer
                  At least until Floyd comes out of retirement.

                  In terms of actual skill and technical ability, I think Cotto is the best guy at 147lbs, even with the Margarito loss.

                  At 147lbs you basically got Cotto, Margarito, Williams, and the rest of the guys are second stringers. Maybe Clottey, but I'm still not sure how good (or bad) this guy is because he hasn't been able to showcase his abilities to their fullest potential.

                  Margarito is a walking brick wall. He fights like a robot, just winging **** at you in pure volume to break you down over the course of the fight. He's a bit of a better boxer than most give him credit for, but he's basically an average fighter with an above average work rate and chin.

                  Williams isn't really even in the picture at 147lbs. He's doing his best Roy Jones impression by jumping up in weight, and fighting low-class opposition for title straps to make his name.

                  Judah moved down to 140lbs thankfully.

                  Oscar retired and was damn near shot anyways.

                  Mosley is at the tail end of his career and I think Margarito is going to wreck him next month.

                  All that's left is Cotto, and in my eyes, he's the most technically skilled fighter of the Welterweight division. If you've been following him at all you can see the amount of experience he's gained just in the last 2 years alone.


                  Agreed but Amir Khan is one of the most talented fighters at lightweight.


                  You cant train for heart or chin.

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                  • savorduhflavor
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by machotime
                    Considering that you think Marg is a C-level fighter, I guess you have to consider that Floyd was fighting F-level fighters in Baldomir, Judah, Gatti, Shramba etc...
                    Castillo x2, Corrales, DLH, Hatton....It's really hard to hate on Floyd's resume as a whole. At WW it's weak, but his stint at WW was to a pit stop to an Oscar fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Testdead
                      Agreed but Amir Khan is one of the most talented fighters at lightweight.


                      You cant train for heart or chin.
                      I was gonna mention Khan myself haha he is super gifted but lacks punch resistance.

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