As far as talent goes : Cotto is still the best at 147lbs

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  • THRILLA77
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    #11
    Originally posted by the_bringer
    at least until floyd comes out of retirement.

    In terms of actual skill and technical ability, i think cotto is the best guy at 147lbs, even with the margarito loss.

    At 147lbs you basically got cotto, margarito, williams, and the rest of the guys are second stringers. Maybe clottey, but i'm still not sure how good (or bad) this guy is because he hasn't been able to showcase his abilities to their fullest potential.

    Margarito is a walking brick wall. He fights like a robot, just winging **** at you in pure volume to break you down over the course of the fight. He's a bit of a better boxer than most give him credit for, but he's basically an average fighter with an above average work rate and chin.

    Williams isn't really even in the picture at 147lbs. He's doing his best roy jones impression by jumping up in weight, and fighting low-class opposition for title straps to make his name.

    Judah moved down to 140lbs thankfully.

    Oscar retired and was damn near shot anyways.

    Mosley is at the tail end of his career and i think margarito is going to wreck him next month.

    All that's left is cotto, and in my eyes, he's the most technically skilled fighter of the welterweight division. If you've been following him at all you can see the amount of experience he's gained just in the last 2 years alone.
    agreed......

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    • ßringer
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      #12
      Originally posted by C.Y.
      respectable post.. i do disagree with the comments regarding paul williams.. he's moving up in weight because the main guys at welterweight cotto and margarito wont fight him.. either the timing isnt right, or its their promoter, or they dont wanna fight him
      I've worn thin on the whole Williams vs. anyone stuff at 147lbs.

      Though you are right, a lot of times Paul is flat out denied a match with the best at 147lbs.

      I wish Williams the best, and I do like watching him fight. But the dude needs to change his nickname to "bubonic plague" the way people are avoiding his ass.

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        #13
        Originally posted by WetSexyLlamaPR
        Yeah good post, I agree with you on all points. As much as I want Cotto to win the rematch against Tony I don't think he will. Sucks because his legacy will be tarnished due to the 2 Marge losses. I also would not want him to receive another beating and knowing him he's not gonna stop till there's literally nothing left just like the first fight. Urgh. Here's to hoping he pulls it out though...
        Just think how determined Tony would/will be in a rematch, knowing he already broke him down once. In the back of his mind you know he would be thinking about it again, and he'd be equally as relentless, if not more so. Perhaps even reckless.

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        • boxing_great
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          #14
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          At least until Floyd comes out of retirement.

          In terms of actual skill and technical ability, I think Cotto is the best guy at 147lbs, even with the Margarito loss.

          At 147lbs you basically got Cotto, Margarito, Williams, and the rest of the guys are second stringers. Maybe Clottey, but I'm still not sure how good (or bad) this guy is because he hasn't been able to showcase his abilities to their fullest potential.

          Margarito is a walking brick wall. He fights like a robot, just winging **** at you in pure volume to break you down over the course of the fight. He's a bit of a better boxer than most give him credit for, but he's basically an average fighter with an above average work rate and chin.

          Williams isn't really even in the picture at 147lbs. He's doing his best Roy Jones impression by jumping up in weight, and fighting low-class opposition for title straps to make his name.

          Judah moved down to 140lbs thankfully.

          Oscar retired and was damn near shot anyways.

          Mosley is at the tail end of his career and I think Margarito is going to wreck him next month.

          All that's left is Cotto, and in my eyes, he's the most technically skilled fighter of the Welterweight division. If you've been following him at all you can see the amount of experience he's gained just in the last 2 years alone.
          I agree with you.
          I think p4p cotto is a better fighter than Margarito.
          There is a sizeable difference between the 2 .

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            #15
            Originally posted by boxing_great
            I agree with you.
            I think p4p cotto is a better fighter than Margarito.
            There is a sizeable difference between the 2 .
            I agree. And people complains when I have Cotto higher in my P4P list than Margarito!!!!!!! But this is why!!!!!

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              #16
              Originally posted by The_Bringer
              I've worn thin on the whole Williams vs. anyone stuff at 147lbs.

              Though you are right, a lot of times Paul is flat out denied a match with the best at 147lbs.

              I wish Williams the best, and I do like watching him fight. But the dude needs to change his nickname to "bubonic plague" the way people are avoiding his ass.
              Real walkie talkie.
              And as far as Cotto, I think he has the most well rounded skills out of anybody at 147. Anybody dismissing him because of that loss against Margarito are out of their minds. I think he will adjust, and have more then a fair shot at avenging his loss to Margarito when the rematch happens.

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                #17
                Originally posted by the_bringer
                at least until floyd comes out of retirement.

                In terms of actual skill and technical ability, i think cotto is the best guy at 147lbs, even with the margarito loss.

                At 147lbs you basically got cotto, margarito, williams, and the rest of the guys are second stringers. Maybe clottey, but i'm still not sure how good (or bad) this guy is because he hasn't been able to showcase his abilities to their fullest potential.

                Margarito is a walking brick wall. He fights like a robot, just winging **** at you in pure volume to break you down over the course of the fight. He's a bit of a better boxer than most give him credit for, but he's basically an average fighter with an above average work rate and chin.

                Williams isn't really even in the picture at 147lbs. He's doing his best roy jones impression by jumping up in weight, and fighting low-class opposition for title straps to make his name.

                Judah moved down to 140lbs thankfully.

                Oscar retired and was damn near shot anyways.

                Mosley is at the tail end of his career and i think margarito is going to wreck him next month.

                All that's left is cotto, and in my eyes, he's the most technically skilled fighter of the welterweight division. If you've been following him at all you can see the amount of experience he's gained just in the last 2 years alone.
                the scary thing is he's not even in his prime yet he's still improving every fight

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by THRILLA77
                  the scary thing is he's not even in his prime yet he's still improving every fight
                  Cotto is not in his prime, what a joke

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50
                    Real walkie talkie.
                    And as far as Cotto, I think he has the most well rounded skills out of anybody at 147. Anybody dismissing him because of that loss against Margarito are out of their minds. I think he will adjust, and have more then a fair shot at avenging his loss to Margarito when the rematch happens.
                    Agreed, on all points. So long as his conditioning is up to par, he'll have no problem taking a decision from Tony.

                    But he needs to learn to keep his ass off the ropes.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by flawless.
                      cotto is not in his prime, what a joke
                      the guy looks better in every fight so he hasnt peaked yet

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