Duran is not a top ten ATG

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Man, you have just lost it. First off, Leonard changed the face of boxing. Before his massive fame boxers had to go through the rank. After Leonard and the Fab Four thing, it allowed the popular fighters to get basically anyone they wanted. Hence Mayweather being able to fight anyone, at any weight without having to through the proper loops. It's good and bad. More money for the fighters: Great! Ridiculous title shots and absurd undefeated records against has-beens, never-rans and other various ****e.

That's why, before Leonard, Duran had to go through the ranks of the welter division to become the top contender. He beat Palomino to do that, you know that HOF guy. To get the Moore shot he beat Cuevas which was the eliminator for the top contender. He went straight to Hagler because this was the start of the boxing 'superstar/superfight' era.

So Leoanrd challlenging and beating the best fighters, is a bad thing...WTF. So we should see fighters that either do what duran did and that is fight and lose, or do what Mayweather does and that is not fight the best.....Wow...

[JAB5239]

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floyd is the greatest WBC champion in history and that org has been around for almost 50 years. I fail to see the point of your argument as it relates to the title thread.

Lmao!!!!!!!!!! Now I've heard it all!! IT IS OFFICIAL.....YOU ARE AN IDIOT NUTHUGGER!!

[Kid McCoy]

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did sven ottke win 5 title in 5 weight classes going undefeated by the age of 30 I didn't think so.

Some nice evasion there. Sven Ottke had a higher % of championship fights than Floyd, won more championship fights than Floyd, made more title defences than Floyd, won his first title earlier in his career, and retired undefeated at the age of 36. By your own measure of greatness, he's superior to PBF.

You have two choices:
- Either concede you're talking ****e, or
- Concede that Sven Ottke is superior to Floyd Mayweather.

[ironalex]

exactly, had hagler lost his defining fights we would not be talking about him and he would not be on my avatar. Duran fought nobodies and lost against the greats, nothing personal against the ugly mother****er but hes not a great fighter.......Would of made an excellent Panamanian road sweeper though.

ugly? and yet you get on your knees and suck off marvin in your dreams?

duran beat quality oppositon at lightweight!! you dont kno **** ******

[Jiddu Dali]

. Duran pretty much didn't fight for or win many champisohip fights after 135 unlike floyd who remained dominant outside of his inital weight class

just because a guy fights for 40 years doesn't make him an automatic atg, bhop has had a more impressive career then duran

True Story

[Jiddu Dali]

ugly? and yet you get on your knees and suck off marvin in your dreams?

duran beat quality oppositon at lightweight!! you dont kno **** ******

I dont think the TS is dis*****g that, I think he is saying that he is not a TOP 10 ATG , especially not above any of the other fab 4 Hearns, Duran and Leonard.

I could be wrong

[Brandish]

I dont think the TS is dis*****g that, I think he is saying that he is not a TOP 10 ATG , especially not above any of the other fab 4 Hearns, Duran and Leonard.

I could be wrong

naw youre spot on..duran is not better than the other fab 3 and I rank him around 25-30 the fact that he never defended a title outside of 135 hurts him in the atg legacy rankings.

winning a title is one thing defending it is another

[Jiddu Dali]

benitez - super welterweight
leonard - welterweight
hearns - super welterweight
hagler - middleweight
duran is a LIGHTWEIGHT.
for 12 years duran's only loss was to esteban dejesus. (which he avenged a couple of years later)
he was also the first man to ever beat sugar ray leonard. a prime sugar ray leonard.
threadstarter is a moron.

What kind of excuse is that. He lost those fights clearly

LOL I guess fighting The Top Guys and losing to them makes you a top 10 ATG,...in that case Oscar De La Hoya should be #1 on the ATG List

Duran was great but a top 10 atg? Naw

[Off_The_Wall]

Roberto Duran is in my 30 for sure...but not in my top 10...however i have duran ahead of hagler and hearns but far behind Sugar Ray Leonard...duran's record is incredible and the longevity of his success is totally understated

[Jiddu Dali]

Do you guys not understand how long Duran fought for ? and the fact that he was good for all those years... Most respected writers and boxing experts talk highly of duran and most have him in the Top 5 or 10 ALL TIME.

So because a fighter fights for a long time that makes him an Top 10 ATG?