Who will be the next Great Black Hope after Haye?

[T.Horton]

I suppose it is like being proud of your city or proud of your wife.

I don't think it's the same at all.

[T.Horton]

Why is it okay for black people to be proud of being black, gay people to be proud of being gay (gay pride parades) but so morally reprehensible for white people to be proud of being white? Has the media and entertainment industry brainwashed us into hating ourselves for who we are?

I think that I was pretty clear when I said that being proud of something that you had nothing to do with is a foolish concept. Gay, Black, White whatever. You had nothing to with your genetics. What's to be proud of?

In the case of Blacks and Gays - it's more of a case of empowerment due to a lack of during past generations. Why is that so difficult to understand...are you oppressed?

[Ben_London.]

I don't think it's the same at all.

Why are you so interested in this, Tim Horton?

[T.Horton]

Why are you so interested in this, Tim Horton?

Because I think what you're trying to preach is: a) a ridiculous concept and b) veiled racism. the only thing dumber than being proud of something that you had nothing to with is to hate somebody else for something that THEY had nothing to do with.

That's why.

[Ben_London.]

I think that I was pretty clear when I said that being proud of something that you had nothing to do with is a foolish concept. Gay, Black, White whatever. You had nothing to with your genetics. What's to be proud of?

In the case of Blacks and Gays - it's more of a case of empowerment due to a lack of during past generations. Why is that so difficult to understand...are you oppressed?

Yes, we are oppressed in a way. The common person is becoming like a powerless serf or a peasant - we are ruled by an elite who despise us. Although that ruling class of the very weathy people are mostly white themselves, they despise ordinary white people, and their feelings constantly come across through the media.

[Pullcounter]

there's no such thing as a Great Black Hope.

[T.Horton]

Yes, we are oppressed in a way. The common person is becoming like a powerless serf or a peasant - we are ruled by an elite who despise us. Although that ruling class of the very weathy people are mostly white themselves, they despise ordinary white people, and their feelings constantly come across throught the media.

then maybe you and the other oppressed "ordinary" people of all races should do something about it...why waste time talking about race as though that's your biggest problem?

[hardmanbrit]

I was turned for a job with the Metropolitan Police of London two years ago because they said they were not accepting applications from White men.

That is racism/discrimination; not mere verbal abuse.

Hopkins just made a silly verbal comment so get over it guys.

[LIL_KULIT808]

I should say Great Black Dope, like they referred to White fighters in the media when Blacks had the heavyweight belts. So, have you picked one out yet, kids? Doesn't hurt to start planning in advance.

barrack *****

[Davros?]

Haye is not a great black hope who even said he was? He is Britain’s heavyweight hope not some racist crap, after him the 2 heavyweights that I am following are Boystov and Tor Hamer, I would like to see Price do well but I don’t know if he has the chin.