Wlad is most overrated champ for a long time.

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He beat good guys in retrospect, a lot of the guys he beat back then were criticized as being nobodies as well, Wlad could be looked upon the same way, obviously Wlad won't get guys like Holyfield and Tyson on his resume but maybe he won't need them. Time will tell.

There will be no retrospect for Wlad, because everyone is so old in the heavies. They don't have time to improve or mature, barring 1 or 2 maybe.

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lennox lewis' win over david tua is probably better than any win wlad has tbh.

most of wlad's wins are over guys the level of tommy morrison or michael grant.

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lennox lewis' win over david tua is probably better than any win wlad has tbh.

most of wlad's wins are over guys the level of tommy morrison or michael grant.

Morrison>Wlad

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louis was about 22 when he lost to schmelling he also had barely over 20 fights. same as when wlad lost to puritty. a loss to a schmelling is better than a loss to puritty.

wlad has 2 losses around the age of 27 (prime years) and with more than 40 plus fights under his belts.

losses to oliver mccall and hasim rahman are better than losses to corrie sanders and lamon brewster. unlike wlad , lennox also avenged every single one of his losses.

his path is similar to lennox? who are gonna be the tysons and holyfields he's gonna make his name against?

The Purrity loss was not good, I agree and definitely, an old Schmeling is better than any version of Purrity but Wlad was green.

Not really, Corrie Sanders is one of the most underrated and one of the most underachieving heavyweights in the past 20 years, he didn't have the discipline to be a champion but he trained for Wlad and it showed, Sanders was a very good fighter when he was focused and well prepared. Brewster is probably worse than McCall or Rahman but he's no slouch at his best.

As I said, obviously, there are no other great fighters out there for him to fight but Lewis did catch them when they were obviously past their best, it's like Holmes' reign, he didn't have any ATG's to fight at their best during his reign but he's considered one of the best ever now. Give Wlad time, he has very good skills and maybe, just maybe, one day we could be looking back and say Wlad was a beast or Wlad was one of the best or something like that. Time will tell and that's what we have to give him, time.

I'm not saying he is a great fighter or that he will be a great fighter but a lot of great fighters don't get their credit when they're fighting, it's only when people look back on their careers that they see a great fighter and that requires time.

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There will be no retrospect for Wlad, because everyone is so old in the heavies. They don't have time to improve or mature, barring 1 or 2 maybe.

Of course there's no retrospect because we haven't had time to look back on his career yet, he needs time.

[The Hulk]

Morrison>Wlad

Haha. Hulk enjoying this but now you're pushing it just a little too far.
Morrison had real pop but he was steroidally enhanced and had much shorter reach. Wlad would have ripped his face apart with jabs.

Grar!

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The Purrity loss was not good, I agree and definitely, an old Schmeling is better than any version of Purrity but Wlad was green.

Not really, Corrie Sanders is one of the most underrated and one of the most underachieving heavyweights in the past 20 years, he didn't have the discipline to be a champion but he trained for Wlad and it showed, Sanders was a very good fighter when he was focused and well prepared. Brewster is probably worse than McCall or Rahman but he's no slouch at his best.

As I said, obviously, there are no other great fighters out there for him to fight but Lewis did catch them when they were obviously past their best, it's like Holmes' reign, he didn't have any ATG's to fight at their best during his reign but he's considered one of the best ever now. Give Wlad time, he has very good skills and maybe, just maybe, one day we could be looking back and say Wlad was a beast or Wlad was one of the best or something like that. Time will tell and that's what we have to give him, time.

holmes has wins over greats , silence. even though they're old and past prime. it's a part of the sport. wlad doesn't even have that!

mccall and rahman are superior to corrie sanders. corrie has skills but skills is not everything.

as far as giving wlad time......he's 32. i don't underrate him anyway. he's the best skilled of this era (though i think big brother takes him).

but when comparing him to the greats at heavy......he's not up there nor will he probably ever be.

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Haha. Hulk enjoying this but now you're pushing it just a little too far.
Morrison had real pop but he was steroidally enhanced and had much shorter reach. Wlad would have ripped his face apart with jabs.

Grar!

hulk , how does the tiny pants that fit you when you're normal......still fit you when you turn into the hulk?

[Left Hook Tua]

Morrison>Wlad

i don't know about that......

but if AIDS boy had landed his left hook once flush......you never know......

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holmes has wins over greats , silence. even though they're old and past prime. it's a part of the sport. wlad doesn't even have that!

mccall and rahman are superior to corrie sanders. corrie has skills but skills is not everything.

as far as giving wlad time......he's 32. i don't underrate him anyway. he's the best skilled of this era (though i think big brother takes him).

but when comparing him to the greats at heavy......he's not up there nor will he probably ever be.

That's not his fault.

At 32 Lennox Lewis was just starting to really gain respect.

As I said, give him time, things can look very different in 10 years.