Manny will beat Mayweather (The case for Manny)

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If so, the second part was the indication of humor.

Ricky knew Floyd wasn't hurt so he didn't go after the KO.

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[Benny Leonard]

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[Ray*]

I can see Floyd losing if he continues on with his current 147+ style. It might end up being Hopkins vs. Taylor (I).

He needs to go back to the way he fought under 147.

He had trouble with Judah because of that new style.

Like I said many times before: Instead of jabbing a lot like he used to, he throws the lead right hand. Instead of combos; he pot-shots. Instead of moving around the ring and bouncing in and out like he did at lightweight; he sits there and doesn't use his legs nearly as much.
He just sits there and waits about until about 40% of the fight is over before he really kicks it into gear.

Is it his age, is it his hands...his Mental status of being to cautious???

Either way...he needs to fight from round 1 again like he used to or stay retired.

He bores me and he isn't good anymore compared to the way he used to be.

Totally agree with you..

[Pullcounter]

Against Hatton Mayweather almost went down to a hatton left hand (was a jab)

I stopped reading right there... you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

[Sandro17]

I stopped reading right there... you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

He almost went down in the first round...didnt have to hurt mayweather. hatton just caught him with a good body shot.

[larryx]

[QUOTE=Sandro17;4465755]Against Hatton Mayweather almost went down to a hatton left hand (was a jab) too bad Hatton isn't much of a jabber.

Against De La Hoya - Mayweather's bane was Oscars left jab. Good lord during round 7 I thought Oscar had the fight won because Oscar seemed to have found a way to get to Mayweather... Too bad Oscar stopped Jabbing.

Baldomir and Gatti didn't have the skills to beat Mayweather...they were both mismatches.



Against Judah...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeURoJXiOdY

Zab won the first 4 rounds due to his left hand and right hook. If you watch the highlight above, you'll see that Zab had the upper hand against mayweather whenever he threw the left hand. After 4 rounds Zab stopped throwing his punches and stood there like a punching bag.

Anyone here see the pattern?

Mayweather has always had trouble with his opponents left hands (assuming they are fast). Whenever his opponents would use the left hand effectively, and seem to be pulling ahead in the fight they gassed out and stopped using it.

In Pac's last fight, he showed just how potent his left hand was. Sure Oscar was slow when dealing with it but thats not the point. The point is that Manny has a tremendously good left hand. Whats more is that Manny just doesn't gas out.

He actually steps on the accelerator in the late rounds even when hurt (Marquez - Pacquiao 2...round 9)

I pick Manny to win simply because of how great his left hand is along with the fact that manny has a great right hook which will allow him to catch mayweather coming in (Like in Judah - Mayweather)

Whats more, Manny is a southpaw magnifying the effects of him being able to land with the left hand.

Now I know that Mayweather has a great right hand too, and that Manny's southpaw style will also magnify Mayweather's right hand, but when was the last time manny really had a hard time with his opponents right hand?

So I think Mann won't win by KO but by decision due to many left hands to the body in the center of the ring, a couple of good right hooks that catch Floyd, and relentless pressure applied while Floyd is against the ropes.

The only way Floyd wins is by pot shotting Pac in the center of the ring. But I doubt that that is going to happen much because manny has speed (unlike Gatti and Baldomir but much like Judah) He has head movement (Unlike Hatton so no more check left hooks and easy right hands for Floyd) And Manny also throws while coming in (Unlike Oscar...Oscar pushed Floyd back only when he trew when coming in).

And oh I forgot. Manny won't gas out.

Manny is everything Floyds past opponents were'nt. He has the potential to combine all of Floyd's past opponents against Floyd and beat him. Manny has EVERYTHING even the height advantage (He's smaller benefitting on the inside he's small) and he even has the troublesome southpaw stance like Judah.



-Great left hand + Southpaw Stance = troubled Mayweather
-Great head movement + throwing while coming in = Retreating mayweather
-Great Pressure against the ropes and being small = Defensive Mayweather
-Great Stamina = Winning pattern to continue throught the fight for Manny.

Thats basically it. What do you guys think?

Edit: Karma would be greatly appreciated [/QUOTE]hatton never wobbled or staggered floyd..that punch didnt even land..pacman got ko'd 2 times,and wobbled by jmm...stop acting like beating a weight drained part time fighter makes pacman better than floyd..floyd would break pacman down and ko him

[Sandro17]

look you put together a solid enough argument but manny cant win this fight

you talk about floyd having trouble with judahs left hand, yeah fair enough, but he came back and won that fight didnt he? he overcame that problem

manny wont catch floyd clean all that much, and if he gets floyd on the ropes, hell i guarantee thats where floyds best work will occur as he rolls off mannys shots and lays on counters

pac isnt strong enough to push floyd around, mayweathers physcial strength is quite underrated and he wont get bullied by manny

he will win a UD

Mayweather pulled the fight out of his hat after losing the first 4 rounds simply because Judah as always gassed out.

Mayweather beat Oscar because Oscar gassed out.

Sure Mayweather did some adjustments but for the most part its always about his oppponents gassin out.

Look...whenever we talk about Oscar and Judah we always think about the fact that they never win their fights because they lose their edge after 6 rounds. After 6 rounds they become in a way punching bags.

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He almost went down in the first round...didnt have to hurt mayweather. hatton just caught him with a good body shot.

I honestly don't see it! What's the time on the clock when this happens? I have the video so I wanna check it.



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[larryx]

Watch the fight again and look at their feet.

Tangled.

Floyd wasn't even close to going down from a Hatton punch. Look at the feet.

you dont even like floyd and have enough since to know the punch didnt even land

[RisAri0]

hmmmm...Floyd is a master of making adjustments though.. of course he'll eat some lefts from Manny here and there, BUT he can and will adjust to it..