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Boxings Problem - Women?
With UFC pumping out PPVs like crack in the 80's how long do you think boxing can survive what is already a downward trend? The economy doesn't seem to be affecting UFC like it is boxing. I have yet to see Dana White pull an Arum and complain that the economy is affecting ticket sales or PPV buys.
Here are some numbers that may or may not have been posted here before:
Top 10 North American PPV buy rates, 2008
1. Boxing: Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao -1,250,000
2. UFC: Brock Lesnar vs. Randy Couture -1,010,000
3. Wrestling: WrestleMania, Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Paul “Big Show” -670,000
4. UFC: Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch/Lesnar vs. Heath Herring -625,000
5. UFC: Lesnar vs. Frank Mir -600,000
6. UFC: Quinton Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin -540,000
7. UFC: St. Pierre vs. Matt Serra -530,000
8. Boxing: Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones Jr. -500,000
9. UFC: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans -480,000
10. UFC: B.J. Penn vs. Sean Sherk/Tito Ortiz vs. Lyoto Machida -475,000
The Lesnar/Couture PPV did 2,000,000+ buys from what I was told.
I'm seeing a trend similar to what has happened in music. Ja Rule would sell millions of records why, not because dudes thought he was ill but because bitches were into his ****. What women like, is what gets spun on the radio, gets played in the clubs, gets sold in record stores, and are generally the more successful artists of our time. Elvis, N'Sync, Eminem, 50 Cent, Mariah Carey, James Blunt. Just to name a few, do you think dudes are really where the bulk of the money these artists make comes from?
There are two spots I frequent near where I live for all of my boxing PPVs and UFC PPVS and the UFC crowds triple and quadruple what shows for boxing events. The majority of the crowd aside from the frat boys are women. Sure they aren't people I would consider real fans. They can't name a move made, probably don't know what shooting is, and couldn't tell you what ground and pound is - but they scream their heads off and cheer and lose their minds to these half naked dudes beating each others asses. Point is, the ratio of women to men is easily 2/1 and 3/1 at times.
I'm not saying boxing needs to market itself towards woman to survive, but with UFC becoming increasingly popular at what seems to be an astronomical rate - where will it end for boxing? How long can boxing tread water for?
Thoughts? Lets discuss.
Here are some numbers that may or may not have been posted here before:
Top 10 North American PPV buy rates, 2008
1. Boxing: Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao -1,250,000
2. UFC: Brock Lesnar vs. Randy Couture -1,010,000
3. Wrestling: WrestleMania, Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Paul “Big Show” -670,000
4. UFC: Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch/Lesnar vs. Heath Herring -625,000
5. UFC: Lesnar vs. Frank Mir -600,000
6. UFC: Quinton Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin -540,000
7. UFC: St. Pierre vs. Matt Serra -530,000
8. Boxing: Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones Jr. -500,000
9. UFC: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans -480,000
10. UFC: B.J. Penn vs. Sean Sherk/Tito Ortiz vs. Lyoto Machida -475,000
The Lesnar/Couture PPV did 2,000,000+ buys from what I was told.
I'm seeing a trend similar to what has happened in music. Ja Rule would sell millions of records why, not because dudes thought he was ill but because bitches were into his ****. What women like, is what gets spun on the radio, gets played in the clubs, gets sold in record stores, and are generally the more successful artists of our time. Elvis, N'Sync, Eminem, 50 Cent, Mariah Carey, James Blunt. Just to name a few, do you think dudes are really where the bulk of the money these artists make comes from?
There are two spots I frequent near where I live for all of my boxing PPVs and UFC PPVS and the UFC crowds triple and quadruple what shows for boxing events. The majority of the crowd aside from the frat boys are women. Sure they aren't people I would consider real fans. They can't name a move made, probably don't know what shooting is, and couldn't tell you what ground and pound is - but they scream their heads off and cheer and lose their minds to these half naked dudes beating each others asses. Point is, the ratio of women to men is easily 2/1 and 3/1 at times.
I'm not saying boxing needs to market itself towards woman to survive, but with UFC becoming increasingly popular at what seems to be an astronomical rate - where will it end for boxing? How long can boxing tread water for?
Thoughts? Lets discuss.
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