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  • #31
    Originally posted by Silencers View Post
    Some fights fell through, he wanted Haye but Haye moved up to heavyweight there were talks of him fighting Maccarinelli but that didn't happen because of Haye, the Adamek fight was supposed to happen earlier this year but Adamek decided to take a tune up first instead.

    I think he's promoted by Don King.
    thanks for answering you're the only one that answered my question and stayed on topic, lol

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    • #32
      Originally posted by egreezy View Post
      thanks for answering you're the only one that answered my question and stayed on topic, lol
      No problem.

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      • #33
        Here is how I see the controversy of the 4th. Scoring it 10-8 for Adamek implies a deep misunderstanding of boxing scoring, or a total unwillingness to EVER score rounds 10-8 without a knockdown, which is foolish. Cunningham dominated the first what, 2:58 of that round easily. That is a 10-8 round. I don't see it any other way. And then... boom, down he goes. Suddenly you're faced with the dilemna of how you score rounds. Can one punch redeem an entire round? Then at best you have it a draw, 10-10. You can't score that round 10-9 for Adamek. He lost it in every conceivable way. You can still give it to Cunningham 10-9 though. That is realistic. He won the whole thing absolutely huge save for being knocked down at the end. Depending on what you do, whether you have it 10-10 or 10-9 Cunningham, you have to deduct a point from him for being knocked down. You either have it 10-9 Adamek, 9-9, or 10-10 if you round up your 9-9 scores. 10-8 for Adamek is pretty absurd. Sorry, you can't get beat up THAT badly and suddenly have a 10-8 from one punch. That is an abuse of the ten point must system, textbook bad judging.

        I didn't, however, score the whole fight. I got too caught up in it and lost track. I think I'll do that when I'm done eating and see what I get. It certainly felt razor close without the numbers.

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        • #34
          this was a tune up almost for steve

          he didnt even fight yet this year

          there needs to be a rematch

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jcarr71 View Post
            Here is how I see the controversy of the 4th. Scoring it 10-8 for Adamek implies a deep misunderstanding of boxing scoring, or a total unwillingness to EVER score rounds 10-8 without a knockdown, which is foolish. Cunningham dominated the first what, 2:58 of that round easily. That is a 10-8 round. I don't see it any other way. And then... boom, down he goes. Suddenly you're faced with the dilemna of how you score rounds. Can one punch redeem an entire round? Then at best you have it a draw, 10-10. You can't score that round 10-9 for Adamek. He lost it in every conceivable way. You can still give it to Cunningham 10-9 though. That is realistic. He won the whole thing absolutely huge save for being knocked down at the end. Depending on what you do, whether you have it 10-10 or 10-9 Cunningham, you have to deduct a point from him for being knocked down. You either have it 10-9 Adamek, 9-9, or 10-10 if you round up your 9-9 scores. 10-8 for Adamek is pretty absurd. Sorry, you can't get beat up THAT badly and suddenly have a 10-8 from one punch. That is an abuse of the ten point must system, textbook bad judging.

            I didn't, however, score the whole fight. I got too caught up in it and lost track. I think I'll do that when I'm done eating and see what I get. It certainly felt razor close without the numbers.
            Yeah makes perfect sense

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Silencers View Post
              I scored that 10-8, a knockdown is an automatic 10-8 and I rarely give 10-8 rounds without a fighter going down, it would have to be a totally dominant round like Pacquiao-DLH round 7, Cunningham wasn't that dominant.
              That is a flaw in your scoring process then IMO. There is no way a KD is an automatic 10-8 round in my book, not when the fighter who was knocked down was clearly the stronger guy for the vast majority of the round.

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              • #37
                I'm looking at Cunningham-Jones fight and I see a big difference in him. He's more mobile on his toes, dodging/ shoulder leaning, throwing his jab more, following it up with right hands and combos, and more accurate.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by danc1984 View Post
                  That is a flaw in your scoring process then IMO. There is no way a KD is an automatic 10-8 round in my book, not when the fighter who was knocked down was clearly the stronger guy for the vast majority of the round.
                  It's really personal preference, different people score fights differently.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                    It's really personal preference, different people score fights differently.
                    The 4th Round would have been 10-9 Cunningham. Then there is the knockdown, if you score it 10-8 Admaek that's a three point swing from one punch. I think it should be Even or 10-9 Adamek the 4th Round.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by egreezy View Post
                      The 4th Round would have been 10-9 Cunningham. Then there is the knockdown, if you score it 10-8 Admaek that's a three point swing from one punch. I think it should be Even or 10-9 Adamek the 4th Round.
                      As I said, it's personal preference, wouldn't have made a difference on the official scorecards anyways.

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