Floyd Mayweather Jr. Plans Return For Manny Pacquiao

[archermac X]

I hear you, but Oscar was a year and a half older and weight drained. If manny fought the De la Hoya Floyd fought no way he would have looked that good. Steve Forbes also lumped up De la Hoya's face...and no way does he hit harder than PBF. I am not saying PBF if a KO king above 140 but when he hits you, you think about it. De la Hoya stopped throwing the jab around rd 7 when he fought PBF because he was tired of getting countered. All I am saying is Manny has not been countered by someone with Mayweather's power. Remember Mayweather has been fighting bigger men than Manny. When he fough someone his size or smaller he knocks them out or beats that ass badly.

A comparison of Mayweather's and Pac's punch power? In the final rounds of de la Hoya-Mayweather, Floyd was hitting Oscar in the face so much. What was the result? No lumps on Oscar's face whatsoever. De la Hoya-Pacquiao? Pac reddened Oscar's face with the first two punches that connected and bloodied his nose at the end of round 1. No comparison here. Only 1 Pacquiao punch would equalize 4 of Floyd's.

Pacquiao has been countered by comparatively harder punchers than Mayweather. In my opinion, Marquez , Morales and Barrera hit harder than Mayweather did at 130 and not one of them even came close to knocking him down. And remember the Corley fight, Mayweather was buzzed in that one and Corley was not even a puncher. If you compare Mayweather's and Manny's chin, I think hands down, Manny has the stronger beard. Mayweather doesn't take too many chances because he knows he has a shaky chin, that's why he had developed his defense so much. Manny gets hit often but so far, in this century no one has come close to KO'ing him.

[archermac X]

I doubt, though, that Mayweather-Pacquiao will happen. I think Floyd's ego was just pricked because almost all the experts are now ranking Pacman above him in the ATG considerations. He has won belts at 130,135, 140, 147 and 154 but nobody has compared him with Henry Armstrong whereas Pac is already being called the Armstrong of our time. He is merely making noise so he will not be forgotten. I have the feeling that if Pac obliterates Hatton this May, Mayweather will chicken out.

[Mr.Smith]

Yeah, but have you ever taken into account how intelligent Floyd could be when Pac's punches are coming at him from all angles? Floyd's intelligence and defense will be much of a factor when he faces fighters with slow handspeed and slow footwork and who fights at a slow pace like he does. Pac is neither of those. Floyd will be so busy trying not to get hit, and believe you me, Pac will hit him a lot, that he won't be able to counter. And what happens when Floyd can't counter, he will lose almost all of the rounds because we know that Pac will throw punches for the whole twelve rounds. The only way Floyd can win is if he can counter Pac, and I don't see that happening a lot. Floyd will never take the initiative against Pac early on because Pac's counterpunching is underrated. If you look at the de la Hoya fight, one of the main reasons why de la Hoya doesn't throw his jab a lot is because almost everytime he throws it, Pac counters him with an overhand right hook which almost never misses as it arrives before de la Hoya has time to pull his left back. Hell, Pac is so quick it amost arrives at the same time de la Hoya's jab does. So, it's a given that Floyd will never take the initiative in offense in the early rounds. He'll be waiting to counter Pac. What happens? When he loses almost all of the early rounds and sees his 0 flying away, he will be forced to attack Pac. When he does that, he will be knocked the **** out. There is no comparison between Pac's and Floyd's offense. Because he has the stronger punch and, in my estimation, the faster handspeed, Pac will win almost all the exchanges. Take note of this, if and when Floyd man's up to fight Pac, he will be KTFO. I doubt this will happen, though. I think if Pac massacres Hatton, FLOYD WILL CHICKEN OUT and demand so much money so that the fight will never happen.

I thought some of the Floyd huggers were bad.......

[archermac X]

Wanna know why Floyd will never fight Margarito? He knows Margarito will walk right through ten of his punches but the first power punch that Margarito connects on his chin would KO him. That's why he refused $8 million and will never fight Margarito ever.

[Mr.Smith]

I doubt, though, that Mayweather-Pacquiao will happen. I think Floyd's ego was just pricked because almost all the experts are now ranking Pacman above him in the ATG considerations. He has won belts at 130,135, 140, 147 and 154 but nobody has compared him with Henry Armstrong whereas Pac is already being called the Armstrong of our time. He is merely making noise so he will not be forgotten. I have the feeling that if Pac obliterates Hatton this May, Mayweather will chicken out.

I give you props on this one.

[TRUE WARRIOR!!!]

i hope this is not some made up story. my life will be complete once i get to see mayweather lying face down twitching. i would rather have had margarito do but i cant complain as long as someone does it.

[sunwizard]

A comparison of Mayweather's and Pac's punch power? In the final rounds of de la Hoya-Mayweather, Floyd was hitting Oscar in the face so much. What was the result? No lumps on Oscar's face whatsoever. De la Hoya-Pacquiao? Pac reddened Oscar's face with the first two punches that connected and bloodied his nose at the end of round 1. No comparison here. Only 1 Pacquiao punch would equalize 4 of Floyd's.

Pacquiao has been countered by comparatively harder punchers than Mayweather. In my opinion, Marquez , Morales and Barrera hit harder than Mayweather did at 130 and not one of them even came close to knocking him down. And remember the Corley fight, Mayweather was buzzed in that one and Corley was not even a puncher. If you compare Mayweather's and Manny's chin, I think hands down, Manny has the stronger beard. Mayweather doesn't take too many chances because he knows he has a shaky chin, that's why he had developed his defense so much. Manny gets hit often but so far, in this century no one has come close to KO'ing him.

I think you're reaching...130 is not 147 or even 140. That is a bad comparison. People seem to forget that PBF took a flush left hook from oscar in the 12th with Oscar coming in at about 160 and it didnt do ****. Anyone can get buzzed doesnt matter how good your chin is. The difference maker in getting hit is did you see the punch coming. Ask Lennox Lewis.

[archermac X]

Even Floyd, Sr. doesn't sound too sure that Floyd will beat Pacman. When interviewed right after the Pac-Oscar match, he simply said that a Floyd-Pac fight would be a WINNABLE fight for Floyd. Knowing Sr., he shoots his mouth without much thought, so that means he is saying what he feels. Sounds a bit disconcerting to Floyd nuthuggers who all think Floyd will KTFO Manny, huh!?

And if Floyd said he wants his father to train him for Pac, that's also saying that he needs all the help he can get, because deep inside he knows Pac means a difficult fight for him.

[archermac X]

I think you're reaching...130 is not 147 or even 140. That is a bad comparison. People seem to forget that PBF took a flush left hook from oscar in the 12th with Oscar coming in at about 160 and it didnt do ****. Anyone can get buzzed doesnt matter how good your chin is. The difference maker in getting hit is did you see the punch coming. Ask Lennox Lewis.

My point is, Manny has been hit by hard hitters at 130 when he was at 130 and it did not trouble him. Everyone knows that as a boxer goes up in weight his punch resistance also increases. So it's a given that Manny would have increased punch resistance also at 147. There was one instance in the early rounds of the Manny-Oscar fight when Oscar hit Manny flush and it merely made him mad. When Oscar hit Floyd in the 12th, his punch no longer had any pop. We all know he was gassed beginning the 7th round.

[archermac X]

And take note, Floyd was knocked down (his glove touched the canvas) by a single punch from Zab Judah although it was not scored as such. Floyd's chin so far is untested because he ducked the heavy hitters in the welterweight division (Cintron, Margarito, Cotto, Williams).