Manny Pac deserves a ton of credit.

[j]

ahh, gott love pac. i got my bro to bet on him even though many uneducated people favored DLH simply because of size.

well, i am happy to have so many people proven wrong.


pac gave a big ***** slap to the haters this weekend! yeah! party in Manilla!

[CloudJay]

I agree in every words that the thread starter said. Pac is a very special fighter and deserves all the credit he is getting right now.


BTW **** the haters.

[Jose Rizal]

Some people are taking this Mexico vs. Philippines thing too seriously and too far. There is no rivalry.

[bsrizpac]

Mexicans are just butthurt.. All of their fighters lost to Pacquiao..

Now the called out a middleweight frame and Pac moves up 3 Division

And still Another mexican said " NO MAS "

Their feelings are hurt..

The only thing that bothers me is your horrifying avatar. What the ****?

[bsrizpac]

Some people are taking this Mexico vs. Philippines thing too seriously and too far. There is no rivalry.

Attn Ferocity, this thread is meant as a big **** you.

[gopi11]

It's Oscar too. A guy who has always taken a great shot and fired back. Pac completely outsmarted the guy. At no point did Oscar commit to a body attack which he should have. I was yelling that the whole time. Instead it was Pac who began to fire low to re-open up Oscars guard.

Incredible stuff.

I beg to disagree with you on that one mate. Oscar tried to go for Manny's breadbasket but Manny's defensive skillz has improved by leaps and bounds just like you said. How many times did Manny parried Oscar's body attacks with his elbows? Try to watch it again, it was a bunch of times, and he also made Oscar pay for overextending himself while going for Manny's body too. Oscar totally gave up and went headhunting, trying to turn the tide with a knockdown or a knockout, but Manny is way too smart for that. He just covered himself and look for openings that Oscar offered all night, right between his defenses with his sneaky straight left...

[S A M U R A I]

As usual the race trolls have been on here posting all kinds of crap about Manny for no reason, other than their own nationalist or racist agendas.

Here's some perspective:

Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao had 52 fights coming into this fight. He was known primarily as a brawler, a guy with a great punch who broke your will and destroyed you. I felt like JMM figured him out in their two fights together but the Knockdowns kept him from beating Manny. But in terms of boxing skill, JMM always seemed like the smarter fighter, the guy who could adjust his gameplan, stay on the outside and counterpunch.

The most interesting thing about this fight (and Manny's previous fight) was the he changed up his tactics. People don't understand how hard it in ANY sport, let alone a combat sport to change up your physical style. In any sport you have things that come natural. Some guys naturally are dunkers in baskteball, some guys are natural 3 point shooters, some guys are better driving up the lane etc. And when the going gets tough, when there are championship challenges, when your will is tested, it is incredibly hard to not revert to what is physically comfortable to you. In boxing it could be that you are drawn back into a brawl etc.

I have never seen a guy with this many fights who was a brawler, move up this many weight classes in a year, and all while doing it completely change his style up to a boxer/counterpuncher who uses his skill and head to destroy his opponents. The skill level being displayed in this fight vs. what he showed in the JMM fights is a quantum leap in improvement. And he wasn't fighting a scrub. You can say Oscar was shot or whatever, but he was still dangerous and way bigger than many. Manny was not just faster and more athletic, but he had a better gameplan and was the smarter fighter. He feinted to create openings, mixed up his straight leads bringing them in to the face, then the body, then firing them from outside Oscars guard when he saw Oscar adjusting.

His circling was incredible, his angles were smart, and most of all he adapted to anything Oscar tried to do. This is a different fighter after 50+ fights. Can you think of anyone else who has done that?

I think the "haters" and the trolls really need to think about this stuff before they spew their crap.

That's a good post.



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[bsrizpac]

I beg to disagree with you on that one mate. Oscar tried to go for Manny's breadbasket but Manny's defensive skillz has improved by leaps and bounds just like you said. How many times did Manny parried Oscar's body attacks with his elbows? Try to watch it again, it was a bunch of times, and he also made Oscar pay for overextending himself while going for Manny's body too. Oscar totally gave up and went headhunting, trying to turn the tide with a knockdown or a knockout, but Manny is way too smart for that. He just covered himself and look for openings that Oscar offered all night, right between his defenses with his sneaky straight left...

I agree with that. I'm not saying Oscar COULD have done it. but by my view he was headhunting like you said, and could have at least lowered his attempted shots. Sure he might have paid but as roy jones once said: who cares? He's getting hit anyway.

I also agree that Pac beat the fight out of him early so Oscar had to go to headhunt. But if Oscar had gone to the body from round 1, he might have had a better chance. At the very least it's a smarter strategy than swinging at a guy you completely can never hit. EVER.

[2quick2slick]

Pac made all of his haters STFU. Now that's the real beauty of his victory.

[bsrizpac]

Pac made all of his haters STFU. Now that's the real beauty of his victory.

Maybe you haven't been around here much. Plenty of haters still running around.